Prepare for WTO

#22
Given the recent events surrounding Brexit; whatever has happened in the past, regarding plans or anything else, is now irrelevant. I am writing because the sheer lunacy and ill-informed commentaries from your parliamentary colleagues and political journalists is just staggering. Whilst a number are well-meaning, it is high time they were honest with the British public in that WTO Brexit is now the only route left. How many actually know the law they have debated and voted upon? Do we actually elect politicians without a brain? People with no mind and easily manipulatable... party lemmings who just does as they are told. Sad.
Parliamentary time: -

Until Brexit day (at the time of writing) there is only 24 sitting days of parliament left, how can a deal not just be agreed but legislatedfor before the 29th March.
Statute
As you are aware only statute can override statute
In order to extend article 50 (for whatever reason) primary legislation has to be passed to change the EU withdrawal Act, overriding or delaying the repeal of the 1972 ECA
Is there time? I doubt it!
Even IF the Withdrawal Agreement did pass the initial vote, there isn't enough time to get it legislated for because the ratification process defined in the Withdrawal Act requires an Act of Parliament.
European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018
Customs Union

There has been a lot of talk in recent days about Jeremy Corbyn and the Customs Union. Under Section 18 of the EU Withdrawal Act, I think that plans for customs arrangements have to be tabled by a minister by 31st October 2018, therefore the deadline has passed for any new plans to be tabled?

European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018
Also, Section 31 of the Taxation [Cross-Border Trade] Act 2018. Would a Customs Union require a separate act of parliament.
Taxation (Cross-border Trade) Act 2018
And the backstop unlawful?
Taxation (Cross-border Trade) Act 2018
In light of the legislation a Customs Union now unlawful, and any deal cannot be ratified due to parliamentary time constraints. The main point, has the clock finished ticking and it is time parliamentarians were honest with themselves and the British public!!!
There seems to be a lot of provision in the Act for lots of statements but not much on action
 
#23
There seems to be a lot of provision in the Act for lots of statements but not much on action
Quite, but the key thing is deadlines. Bearing in mind there are about 24 sitting days left of parliament until Brexit day. The deadlines which are enshrined in law can only be overridden by fresh primary legislation. I don't think there is enough time to get anything else through. IF the second meaningful vote is not until the beginning of march, that leaves just 12-16 days of legislative time. By way of comparison, the Lisbon Treaty took 11 days at committee stage...
 
#24
Back in the 1860's, the Americans had a dispute between the individual states of the Union.

They resolved it by having a Civil War. This got a result, but killed over half a million citizens in the process.

Is that the way to go?
Do I get to decide who dies?
 

Wordsmith

LE
Book Reviewer
#25
Back in the 1860's, the Americans had a dispute between the individual states of the Union.

They resolved it by having a Civil War. This got a result, but killed over half a million citizens in the process.

Is that the way to go?
So we send all the Romanians up to Scotland, allow the sweaty socks to impose slavery and then invade Scotland from England to free the slaves?

I don't think that idea is going to fly...

Wordsmith
 
#27
Let's just agree that the Brexit process is proving to be a total cluster for all our elected representatives. All parties regarding colour of rosette are split every which way, and seem totally incapable of executing the majorities will that voted for out.
So it looks like we crash out on the 29th March, keep the money 40 Billion Euros (£35B) and do a deal with Italy and the other nations that are sniffing at deals with us.
Risk, very much so but also for the EU as the 40 Billion divorce settlement will help prop up the likes of Italy, Spain, Greece, Portugal and possibly help Germany from sliding into recession. It will then give them a slush fund which will allow them to put the screws on us by subsidising their members so minimising the hardship for them at our expense.
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
#32
Let's just agree that the Brexit process is proving to be a total cluster for all our elected representatives. All parties regarding colour of rosette are split every which way, and seem totally incapable of executing the majorities will that voted for out.
So it looks like we crash out on the 29th March, keep the money 40 Billion Euros (£35B) and do a deal with Italy and the other nations that are sniffing at deals with us.
Risk, very much so but also for the EU as the 40 Billion divorce settlement will help prop up the likes of Italy, Spain, Greece, Portugal and possibly help Germany from sliding into recession. It will then give them a slush fund which will allow them to put the screws on us by subsidising their members so minimising the hardship for them at our expense.
So the Eu by its own intransigence is cutting off its nose to spite its face. Excellent!
 
#36
Well, the classical Roman Legions, for all their brazen Imperial militarism, never managed to subdue Scotland.

Perhaps modern Romanians will finally get the job done. But in a subtler way.
 

AlienFTM

MIA
Book Reviewer
#40
Rome never invaded inconsequential shit holes with no assets
Why they stopped at the banks of the Tyne. Obviously didn't believe the sh¡ithole could be that inconsequential, went North and quickly realised they'd been right all along.
 

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