Premier U.S veterans hospital not so premier after all

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  1. Christ that was heartbreaking.
  2. The Department of Defense, another HMO?

    This is one of the things I never understand. Our politicos crow and preen over those who go to the wars,. Hell, they even spend the money for Starbucks (in a ******* combat zone!!!!) and movie theaters and swimming pools....but on the ass end of the deal some dork who obviously has his future cut out for the insurance industry dicks around with disability payments.

    Those I've spoken to who've never been in the military always speak of death as the worst possible thing that could happen to someone in a war. How sadly mistaken they are...sometimes it's worse to survive.
  3. Yesterday's Stars and Stripes had a similar story - only the conditions described were even worse....
  4. This is fcukin sick, Rummy should be given one in the back of the head on the Pentagon lawn for this.
  5. Not to take anything away from the guys or the story but this bit is just so typically American.

    Wounded soldiers, not allowed to buy a drink? Americans are very very weird people sometimes
  6. Trip_Wire

    Trip_Wire RIP

    I see now they are trying to lay the blame on the SNCOs! I'm sure that there is plenty of blame to be shared and IMHO it shouldn't start with any SNCO!

    Swift Action Promised at Walter Reed

    Investigations Urged as Army Moves to Make Repairs, Improve Staffing
    By Dana Priest and Anne Hull
    Washington Post Staff Writers

    Wednesday, February 21, 2007; Page A08

    The White House and congressional leaders called yesterday for swift investigation and repair of the problems plaguing outpatient care at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, as veterans groups and members of Congress in both parties expressed outrage over substandard housing and the slow, dysfunctional bureaucracy there.

    Top Army officials yesterday visited Building 18, the decrepit former hotel housing more than 80 recovering soldiers, outside the gates of the medical center. Army Secretary Francis Harvey and Vice Chief of Staff Richard Cody toured the building and spoke to soldiers as workers in protective masks stripped mold from the walls and tore up soiled carpets.

    At the White House, press secretary Tony Snow said that he spoke with President Bush yesterday about Walter Reed and that the president told him: "Find out what the problem is and fix it."

    Snow said Bush "first learned of the troubling allegations regarding Walter Reed from the stories this weekend in The Washington Post. He is deeply concerned and wants any problems identified and fixed." The spokesman said he did not know why the president, who has visited the facility many times in the past five years, had not heard about these problems before.

    Walter Reed's commander, Maj. Gen. George W. Weightman, said in an interview that the Army leadership had assured him that all the staff increases he had requested would be met. "This is not an issue," he said. "This is their number one priority."

    He said the Army has agreed to fund what he called a "surge plan" that has been designed for the likelihood that the 21,500-person troop increase underway in Iraq will result in more casualties.

    Weightman said case managers have been ordered to call each of the 700 outpatients to ask about problems they may be encountering. He has also put half a dozen senior enlisted officers from the hospital in charge of the outpatients' companies normally in the hands of lower-level platoon sergeants. Also, a medic will be stationed 24 hours a day at the Mologne House, the largest residence on the 113-acre post, to help soldiers with medical or psychological problems.

    Harvey said he was surprised and disappointed by the conditions and the bureaucratic delays. "In the warrior ethos, the last line says you should never leave a fallen comrade, and from that facility point of view we didn't live up to it . . . and it looks to me we may have not lived up to it from a process side," he said, adding that conditions at the building are "inexcusable."

    "It's a failure . . . in the garrison leadership . . . that should have never happened, and we are quickly going to rectify that situation," he said.

    "We had some NCOs [noncommissioned officers] who weren't doing their job, period," Harvey said. He said he and Cody will report regularly to Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates on a plan to fix the conditions.

    The Post series documented tattered conditions at Building 18, including mold, rot, mice and cockroaches, but also a larger bureaucratic indifference that has impeded some soldiers' recovery.

    At Building 18 yesterday, platoon sergeants with clipboards went from room to room inspecting for mold, leaks and other problems. A broken elevator was repaired, and snow and ice were cleared from the sidewalks.
  7. In any case, was watching CNN today and they had footage of swarms of contractors doing pretty major rehabilitation work. I guess the Army can move quickly if it wants to...

  8. Not to take anything away from your commentary but this is so typically Euroweenie.

    Brits taking potshots at America no matter what the circumstances? Brits are such whiny tw@ts sometimes...
  9. Turds have been know to float to the top of the septic tank. A fact which can apply to NCOs as well as Officers.
  10. You do realise that there are some States which are considering foregoing federal funding by reducing the driking age to allow soldiers who are under 21 to have a pint? Considering the current situation a little bit odd is not a point of view restricted to Europe.


  11. So you don't think there is anything odd about being able to kill and/or die for your country but you are not allowed a beer afterwards?

    Some Americans are very very weird people sometimes
  12. Trip_Wire

    Trip_Wire RIP

    I agree with your post in general; however, looking at the whole problem, I see a lot more blame starting at the top and going down hill.

    This isn't unusual for the military, to lay the blame at the lowest level. As an example look at the Iraq prison scandle.
  13. Well, I guess Satan went to work on a snowplough this morning because I was about to make exactly the same point!
  14. It's been going on for years. During Desert Storm some 82d enlisted personnel were given UCMJ for smuggling Iraqi weapons back while officers who did the same were given 'bad paper' on OERs or just had their wpns confiscated. Officers take care of their own much more often than not and leave enlisted ranks to the wolves. The ringknocker mafia was the worst for that. "Duty, Honor, Country" ought to be ammended to add "and Us".