Poverty in the UK - Labour really is the party of poverty

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  1. Poverty in Britain is at a nine year high, says Joseph Rowntree Foundation report
    The gap between rich and poor is at its highest for nearly 10 years, a report says today.

    By Christopher Hope, Whitehall Editor
    Published: 6:30AM GMT 03 Dec 2009

    The Tories said the report was an indictment of the Government's failure to tackle low earnings and blew "Labour’s hollow claim to be the party of poverty”.
    The study by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation found that the gap between the haves and have-nots started growing in 2004, long before the recession began.

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    The foundation's report found that the number of people living in "low income" households was now 13.4million, the highest level since 2000 when it was nearly 14million.

    A low income household is one that lives on less than 60 per cent of the average UK household income in the year in question - after housing costs and council tax. For a family of four it is £14,560 a year.

    The annual report into poverty in Britain also found that nearly one in eight people of working age are out of work - the highest proportion since Labour came to power in 1997. Repossessions were now back at the level they were in 1994, the study said.
    Theresa May, the Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary, said the report was an indictment of the Labour party and“blows apart Labour’s hollow claim to be the party of poverty”.

    She said: “Gordon Brown spent far too much time during the good times boasting that he had ended boom and bust instead of actually getting on with the job of tackling the deep rooted social problems plaguing Britain."

    Campaigners linked the increase to a steep rise in the number of migrants coming to live in Britain from eastern Europe since 2004, although the report did not blame the increase on immigration.

    Sir Andrew Green, of Migrationwatch, said: "It is surely obvious that mass immigration, legal and illegal, has played a crucial part in holding down wages - and it is the poor who have been adversely affected."

    Julia Unwin, the foundation’s chief executive, said: “Today’s report highlights the scale of the challenge the government faces if it is to reduce poverty significantly in the UK.

    “Although there was success in reversing long-term adverse trends in the first half of the last decade, the re-emergence of these problems indicates that poverty cannot be solved with short-term, reactive solutions.”

    The report, "Findings: Monitoring poverty and social exclusion 2009", found that progress had been made on a number of social problems with falls in the fear of crime, premature death rates, the numbers of children excluded from school and infant mortality.

    Peter Kenway, one of the authors, added: “On low income and employment, the picture is bleak. In particular, it is not just a question of 'recovering from the recession’ since things started going seriously wrong as long ago as 2004.”

    However a spokesman for the Department for Work and Pensions said: "We’re committed to fighting poverty and action we’ve taken has seen persistent poverty fall to its lowest ever level.

    "Since 1997 we have lifted 900,000 pensioners and 500,000 children out of poverty, but we are not complacent. Our Child Poverty Bill will commit this and successive Governments to eradicating child poverty by 2020.

    "Investments made since the Budget 2007 will lift a further 500,000 children out of poverty."
    In September a teachers' leader gave warning that poverty levels in parts of Britain mirror "the times of Dickens", leaving schools struggling to cope with increasing numbers of children lacking the most basic personal skills.

  2. Of course when the same people came out with this we reckoned they were useless lefties and not worth paying attention to...
  3. Perhaps mass poverty is a cunning plan to guarantee we get the toughest recruits for the armed forces, a bit like a modern day Sparta.

    I'll get my coat.
  4. Well thats setteled then Tories have always been the party of the working class eh? I mean they really pulled out all the feckin stops in the 80's to help the working man. Twatt.
  5. Where there any workers when the Tories were in power :wink:
  6. To start with. Now all we have left of industry is a couple of foreign owned car companies and a Indian owned steel mill! Oh the Tories really DO love Britain!

  7. What would the Welsh know about a 'working class'?

    FORMER_FYRDMAN LE Book Reviewer

    Actually, some won, some lost. The Eighties was the price paid for the late-war and post-war decisions about what sort of country Britain should be, economically and socially, and those decisions were largely Labour driven (See Correlli Barnett - Audit of War).

    If anything, it was Labour's fiscal mis-management in the Seventies that made what followed even tougher than it had to be (and generated the political support for a hard line). Now, and for the same reason, we're all going to have to eat that breakfast again, but this time with a much reduced Private Sector and an even more bloated, useless, unionised Public Sector.
  9. The same as you - can talk about it all feckin day!
  10. Well good job theers nothing left to fcuk up eh?
  11. And of course, Labour fiscal policies from the 70's and the Unions stranglehold on industry with a reluctance to modernise had nothing at all to do with it did it......Why dont you just say the usual "it was all Thatchers fault" and be done with it.

    FORMER_FYRDMAN LE Book Reviewer

    Not in Wales anyway. :D
  13. It's that Feckin Witch milk snatching Thatchers fault! Happy?
  14. The reality is that Labourt likes to tax and tax a lot. It is far easier to tax the poor that it is to tax the rich, the rich can afford accountants etc where as the poor are stuck with coughing up what the tax man demands.

    Of course Labour will always bribe the poor with special hand ouits from time to time so they will keep voting for them and then just tax them again to pay for it
  15. It cannot possibly be anything to do with Thatcher, she left office nearly 20 years ago. If poverty is rising in 2009, there are 12 wasted years of Blair/Brown policies to blame.

    Lets not forget who abolished the 10% tax band that the lower earners in society were relying on, a certain G Brown MP, Chancellor of the Exchequer and PM Designate.

    The problem of poverty in this country now is firmly in the hands of Labour, thats where the blame will stick.