Post nominal letters RAF VR(T)

#1
Does anyone know where the rules and regs are for the use of post nominal letters? We have a new CFAV in our CCF who is using RAFVR(T) on all letters including those nothing to do with cadets. Yes he is a walt but I want to shoot him down with the quote from the relevant regs. Maybe JSP 313 or any other ideas,just tried on the internet and two hours later I am none the wiser about it.
I was a submariner for 22 years and the only reason people know I was a submariner is my lack of tan,glow in the dark and the smell!
 
#2
what a bellend. don't know rules and regulations but tell him I think he's a knob!
 
#3
by the way, if you post it on ARRSE's officer forum you'll probably get a swift response.
 
#5
Dunno... just ask him how his career's going impressing unmotivated 13 year olds.
I was in the Mighty ATC.... it was enough to put me off a military career in light blue- there was an 22 year old Warrant Officer who loved to big his military career up (Lance jack in the late, unlamented Wessex Regiment, but he intimated an attachment to 21 SAS) to some less than enthralled space cadets.
Fast forward 16 years to the International Festival Of the Sea in 2001, and I caught this by then Flt/Lt of the RAFVR(T) walting about with a pair of para wings on his sleeve.
Bizarrely, he's now a Squadron Leader in the same organization, but I did find his name on the petition to Gordon Brown (texture like sun) claiming he'd been on the 5 Brigade staff....

Cnut.
 
#6
#7
sfub said:
Dunno... just ask him how his career's going impressing unmotivated 13 year olds.
I was in the Mighty ATC.... it was enough to put me off a military career in light blue- there was an 22 year old Warrant Officer who loved to big his military career up (Lance jack in the late, unlamented Wessex Regiment, but he intimated an attachment to 21 SAS) to some less than enthralled space cadets.
Fast forward 16 years to the International Festival Of the Sea in 2001, and I caught this by then Flt/Lt of the RAFVR(T) walting about with a pair of para wings on his sleeve.
Bizarrely, he's now a Squadron Leader in the same organization, but I did find his name on the petition to Gordon Brown (texture like sun) claiming he'd been on the 5 Brigade staff....

Cnut.

I forgot to ask him if the Air Cadets were posted into 49 Para
 
#8
Was the crab a full-time crab (or as full-time as crabs ever are) before joining the CCF and becoming VRT? If he used to be an Air Cdre or similar then perhaps its valid, if he's a pilot officer or was never a regular then it's not really justified.
 
#9
sfub said:
Dunno... just ask him how his career's going impressing unmotivated 13 year olds.
I was in the Mighty ATC.... it was enough to put me off a military career in light blue- there was an 22 year old Warrant Officer who loved to big his military career up (Lance jack in the late, unlamented Wessex Regiment, but he intimated an attachment to 21 SAS) to some less than enthralled space cadets.
Fast forward 16 years to the International Festival Of the Sea in 2001, and I caught this by then Flt/Lt of the RAFVR(T) walting about with a pair of para wings on his sleeve.
Bizarrely, he's now a Squadron Leader in the same organization, but I did find his name on the petition to Gordon Brown (texture like sun) claiming he'd been on the 5 Brigade staff....

Cnut.
I had a 'love myself to bits' Warrant Officer when I was a cadet who was in the Wessex Regiment and thought he'd been SAS...

whereabouts in the country were you?
 
#11
RAFVR(T) stands for Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve (Training) it is for Officers in charge of the Air Training Corps & the CCF (RAF) Section.

They are unpaid and work with cadets and do great work. I know a few Walty RAFVR(T) Officers who do actually think they are Guy Gibson Material. In the 1980's one guy used to have RAF Roundels on his bonnet and rear plate and used to fly a pennant from his house until he was advised to keep quiet.

99% of the RAFVR(T) are dead on but you get the odd muppet.

My cousin who was an RAF Armourer Cpl gave an RAFVR(T) Officer a dig in the face after he told him his shoes were not shiny enough and tried to show him up infront of cadets during a visit to the bomb dump.

Sadly folk can use RAFVR(T) as Post Noms but only the insecure ones do !
 
#12
Give it a couple of years and see if he fashions himself RAFVR(T)(Ret).
 
#14
He's perfectly entitled to use the post noms, but it shows how insecure he is if he has to use it on non-official communications, then again on official stuff it's still pretty naff unless it's called for.

I think what you have here is someone who has no other "tin drums" to bang, so he bangs this one the loudest.
 
#15
good way of describing it. Couldn't think of a way of describing it, that works.

I know an ACF Lt who, when doing forms on the web etc, ticks 'Other' in the Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms/Other box (designed for Rev'd etc) and fills it with Lt.

saddo. and yes, their life consists factually of little more, and in their mind consists of no more.
 
#16
RAFVR means 'civillian in the RAF.' basically. During WW2 all Officers comissioned after being called up or volunteering after 3/9/39 were comissioned into the RAFVR. After about 1943 they even stopped wearing the VR pins on their lapels of the SD jackets.

The RAFVR(T) still exists as an administrative means to get civillians into comissioned roles for the ATC. This gives the RAF control over the organisation by giving them responsibility, but not any real status. Yes they get a commission scroll, and yes they get saluted, but beyond the confines of the ATC, they are purely ornamental. In fact most of them even in ATC terms are purely ornamental and the ATC is creaking with thousands of these Biggles wannabes. But then since their selection is based on a couple of pleasant interviews and a few chats, followed by a week of powerpoint presentations, a bit of drill and the odd command task at Cranditz, what can you expect? It attracts walts, social climbers and the kind of people who feel the need to have post nominals at the end of their boring memo's about how we will hit those sales targets for photocopier paper. :roll:

I was 8 years a cadet and 3 years a CI in the ATC, and one thing stood out plain as day. The most mature and sensible people in the organisation were the cadets, not the adults! Young lions led by pompous donkeys.
 
#17
It's all nasty middle class posturing!
Yet more walty w@nkers pulling us all down to their level.
We have a 2nd Lt who is just the same all form, no function.......rank on signatures and docs not pertaining to ACF and I heard a restaurant booking!
Thanks sir for your help in making that credibilty mountain so steep!
 
#18
Guys,

Whilst we are on the topic of RAFVR(T). Whats this bollox about their war time role being an education officers. How much does the RAF have to be in the shite to let Cadet AIs teach reg forces.

However due to cuts in the armed forces..................... hmmmmmm, I think they may have something!!! ha ha
 
#19
There is no reserve liability as a cadet officer,when I joined the CCF last year as a CFAV I had to sign to say that my appointment did not stop me from being recalled to the mob if the need arose, once navy always navy!
 
#20
barneyrnsm said:
There is no reserve liability as a cadet officer,when I joined the CCF last year as a CFAV I had to sign to say that my appointment did not stop me from being recalled to the mob if the need arose, once navy always navy!
Are you sure because one of my RAF CCF colleagues are very adamant about this fact. Ha ha ha ha....... Walty fcuker......
 

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