Possible No-Fly Zone in Syria?

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Quote from piece:

"A No Fly Zone sounds like it’s not a war, which is why Obama exploited a No Fly Zone to invade and implement regime change in Libya"

Just remind me - when did Obama 'invade' Libya? Adds a bit of perspective to this, which is, its bollocks.
 

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#3
Whait until you read the list of contributers to Front Page: FrontPage Magazine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The biggest load of hysterical sh*t stirrers known to man.

Ye gods they named Glenn Beck Man of the Year once.

The author also writes for Gaffney's Family Security Matters - Gaffney being one of those who subscribe to the idea that Obama has adopted the ideals of the Muslim Brotherhood

It's interesting that The Daily Beast article which inspired this one seems to put a more cautious spin on the subject: Obama Asks Pentagon For Syria No-Fly Zone Plan - The Daily Beast

Addendum: I should say that I would give Front Page the same credibility as PressTV or the North Korean State Media
 
#4
Whait until you read the list of contributers to Front Page: FrontPage Magazine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The biggest load of hysterical sh*t stirrers known to man.

Ye gods they named Glenn Beck Man of the Year once.

The author also writes for Gaffney's Family Security Matters - Gaffney being one of those who subscribe to the idea that Obama has adopted the ideals of the Muslim Brotherhood

It's interesting that The Daily Beast article which inspired this one seems to put a more cautious spin on the subject: Obama Asks Pentagon For Syria No-Fly Zone Plan - The Daily Beast

Addendum: I should say that I would give Front Page the same credibility as PressTV or the North Korean State Media
Sometimes even media sources with which you disagree may be on to something. And in point of fact it was the Daily Beast, a media source otherwise known as an Obama sycophant that first broke the story.
 
#5
I was wondering at what point AA missiles would find their way to Syria. A no-fly zone would achieve the same outcome (only if backed up by Western aircraft or missiles) of levelling the playing field. The surreptitious training of rebels and the provision of Int to the rebel forces will continue regardless.

This could be reminiscent of Soviet era Afghan shenanigans, but without (hopefully) Russian or Western uniformed forces.
But supplying missiles to rebels means losing control over whose hands they end up in. NATO aircraft enforcing a no fly zone would be 100% NATO controlled, and give more political leverage.
 
#7
But supplying missiles to rebels means losing control over whose hands they end up in. NATO aircraft enforcing a no fly zone would be 100% NATO controlled, and give more political leverage.
Just as what happened in Libya and ultimately led to the deaths of the US ambassador and embassy staffer and 2 heroic Navy SEALS who were apparently engaged in trying to get control/possession of Stingers and other bits of kit that the US had naively given to the "freedom fighters" of the "Arab Spring."
 
#9
Stingers...that the US had naively given to the "freedom fighters" of the "Arab Spring."
No they didn't. It would have been stupid if they had, but they didn't.

The rebels already had plenty of SA-16 and SA-7s they'd looted from Gadhafi's vast arsenals.

As do jihadists now in Syria (saw a terrifying vid today, in fact).
 
#11
The other aspect of course being that it's quite likely new air defence systems will have Sovi... sorry.. Russian "advisers" in close attendance. It's probably not a good idea to SEAD them.
 
#15
Based on Libya, Obama’s version of a No Fly Zone has little in common with the Bush era No Fly Zone, since it’s an open ended excuse for bombing anything and anyone, anywhere.
Quite. It's entirely unlike the ramping up of the Iraqi NFZs in early 2003 which - by pure coincidence, you understand - began to look like a preparatory SEAD campaign for an invasion. Not at all the same, oh no...
 
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The other aspect of course being that it's quite likely new air defence systems will have Sovi... sorry.. Russian "advisers" in close attendance. It's probably not a good idea to SEAD them.
Syria is going to rumble on With Iran and Russia backing assad the rehtoric from France and HMG is just words.

Once S 300 is in place a no fly zone would be a daunting prospect add that to backing on the ground from Hizbollah who have been fighting side by side with Assad forces on the lebanon border only a matter of time till we see Iranian ' Volunteers' on the ground in numbers as well.

It is not beyond the balance of probablities that UK and France have backed the wrong Horse on this one.
 

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