Poppy Fascism/Fascists

#1
Whilst selling poppies in my (OTC) uniform on Campus today, a group of students were donating and getting their poppies, and one of them turned around and asked one of her mates whether she would buy one, and replied..."sorry no, im a poppy fascit". We have been briefed to leave anyone who doesnt want one, or similar, so i left it, but wondering what on earth that means? (by the way, she was the typical white face, black eye make up etc "individual")
 
#2
As in so many ways, the 'individual' was following along with a trend. And getting it wrong.

Mr Jon Snow (C4 News bloke, loud ties, bit foppish) has said he should'nt be made to wear a Poppy while reading the news. Apparently socks that make you cringe and dazzling neckwear are ok, but the quote Poppy Fascists end quote cant make him wear one while he reads his autocue. And yet he wears one on his own time around the house.

Bit strange.

Well done you, for banging them out at a University. Surely a provacative move, surrounded as you are by half-baked swirlings of political ideology. Been called a baby-killer yet?

They were a bit more forceful in my day but that was at Queens, Belfast. :D
 
#3
jaygee said:
Whilst selling poppies in my (OTC) uniform on Campus today, a group of students were donating and getting their poppies, and one of them turned around and asked one of her mates whether she would buy one, and replied..."sorry no, im a poppy fascit". We have been briefed to leave anyone who doesnt want one, or similar, so i left it, but wondering what on earth that means? (by the way, she was the typical white face, black eye make up etc "individual")
I wish my grass was emo, then it would cut itself.
 
#4
Well, we've had plenty of "i dont support the war" " i dont want to support that liar Blair's war of lies" etc.. Also had plenty of positive responses and educating the foreign students in the whole practice and tradition of Remembrance and the poppies.
 
#5
All is not lost. My four year old son returned from school yesterday with a poppy.

"What's a poppy for daddy?" he asked.
"Its for the soldiers who died for us" I replied

Holding the poppy up he asked,
"Which one can this poppy be for then?"

"All of them mate, all of them" I replied

Feck I nearly blubbed
 
#6
It may come as no surprise that when I abandoned my Daily Telegraph this a.m, John Snow's photograph had gained the epithet "I'm a cnut" on his forehead....John, just read the news mate and keep your ******** closed.
 
#7
I'm selling poppies in the centre of Oxford tomorrow from 10am till noon. I hope no one comes up to me asking bone questions, as I will be hard pressed not to give a heartfelt answer.
All I can say is Keep safe all those who serve, and God bless and keep those who have died.
 
#8
Poppies are not about war. They're about caring for the victims of war. It should be compulsory for every person in the UK to donate a quid for a poppy.
 
#9
GDav said:
Poppies are not about war. They're about caring for the victims of war. It should be compulsory for every person in the UK to donate a quid for a poppy.
I bought one really late this year, purely because I couldn't find one, so to atone I stuck £3 in the Jar for one.

Has anyone else found that they're a bit thin on the ground this year?

P
 
#10
Nope. And if you have a problem I can find you a link to the RBL website where you can donate as much as you want. ;)
 
#11
Praetorian said:
GDav said:
Poppies are not about war. They're about caring for the victims of war. It should be compulsory for every person in the UK to donate a quid for a poppy.
I bought one really late this year, purely because I couldn't find one, so to atone I stuck £3 in the Jar for one.

Has anyone else found that they're a bit thin on the ground this year?

P
I did the exact same thing. I couldn't find one anywhere (and indeed posted on one of the threads about it). Then on Tuesday I was out with a 'friend', deep in conversation in the town centre. I'm talking some balls about how great it is to have girls throwing themselves at my feet because of my posh southern accent (it's not, people keep confusing me for Cockney), when I stopped mid sentance and realised what I'd done.

It was freezing and I'd walked straight passed the war memorial, and the old woman standing by herself attempting to sell poppies without even giving it a moment's thought. It was with both a combination of relief that I'd finally found one and the sheer shame I held with myself that I had walked straight on, that I took all the money from my wallet to give to her (being a student that's obviously not a very large sum, and is not intended to sound as though I'm trying to look good because I gave money - quite the opposite, I was ashamed to be honest).

With regards to my fellow students, I have seen quite a few wearing poppies. However, when I asked one of my flatmates if she'd accompany me on Sunday she was thoroughly uninterested. Having said that there are many that are the opposite. For instance the 'friend' I mentioned is not able to attend on Sunday as she is going home for the service in her local town.
 
#12
My uncle has been selling Poppys in Warrington all week, and has been surprised by how many kids have asked him what he's selling. Also been asked the same by a lot of Polish Immigrants and when he tells them what it's about they try and buy them all and go and get their friends to buy some. The Polish cleaner at works got four on His jacket.
 
#13
GDav said:
Nope. And if you have a problem I can find you a link to the RBL website where you can donate as much as you want. ;)
Thats not a bad idea actually, I didn't realise you could do it online. Im just suprised that in my neck of the woods the sellers seem to be a bit thin on the ground.

As an aside, it appears that it is still dominated by WW2 Veterans, and that there are not members from more recent conflicts "coming through the ranks" so to speak.
 
#14
Billy Ruffian said:
As in so many ways, the 'individual' was following along with a trend. And getting it wrong.

Mr Jon Snow (C4 News bloke, loud ties, bit foppish) has said he should'nt be made to wear a Poppy while reading the news. Apparently socks that make you cringe and dazzling neckwear are ok, but the quote Poppy Fascists end quote cant make him wear one while he reads his autocue. And yet he wears one on his own time around the house.

Bit strange.

Well done you, for banging them out at a University. Surely a provacative move, surrounded as you are by half-baked swirlings of political ideology. Been called a baby-killer yet?

They were a bit more forceful in my day but that was at Queens, Belfast. :D
I dont think anyone in the media or anywhere should be MADE to buy or wear a poppy, but I feel it is a little odd they dont want to.

But lets face it this just shows the lack of respect the B'liar's labour party and media generally push/preach, so there is little wonder when it comes back to bit them in the butt!

Unless we can get back our sence of national pride pretty soon we can expect much more of this! 8O
 
#15
The wife was in McDonalds in Kngs Lynn on Saturday, during the two minute silence.
The whole resturant went quiet except for the little kids and a group of foreign students. They kept talking and laughing through the silence. When it had finished the manager went over to the table and ordered them out. One of them said they hadn't finished their burger, to which she replied "TOUGH". Another said "We're not British" to which the manager replied "What part of WORLD war don't you understand. Get out of my resturant now!!!"

Respect to Ronald McDonald and his crew.
 
#16
There is an ironic contradiction here.
In the 1940's Jews in German Occupied Europe were forced to wear the yellow Star of David. A few million people died in WW2 because of the madman who came up with that plan.
I wouldn't be hapy with coercing someone to wear a poppy to commemorate thase who died for freedom. Mr Snow can choose not to wear a poppy. Had Britain fallen in 1941, would he be able to choose not to go on air without a swastica in his lapel.
Lets give thanks that it is Cadets , Scouts, RBL and other voulenteers giving up their time to sell poppies, Rather than Blackshirts and Hitler Youth with little swasticas on pins to celebrate "Fatherland Day" or somesuch...
 
#17
Yddap said:
There is an ironic contradiction here.
In the 1940's Jews in German Occupied Europe were forced to wear the yellow Star of David. A few million people died in WW2 because of the madman who came up with that plan.
I wouldn't be hapy with coercing someone to wear a poppy to commemorate thase who died for freedom. Mr Snow can choose not to wear a poppy. Had Britain fallen in 1941, would he be able to choose not to go on air without a swastica in his lapel.
Lets give thanks that it is Cadets , Scouts, RBL and other voulenteers giving up their time to sell poppies, Rather than Blackshirts and Hitler Youth with little swasticas on pins to celebrate "Fatherland Day" or somesuch...
This is why we must defend freedom at all costs the freedom to chose (right or wrong) is part of being English, it's what so many not only in WW2 but in many conflicts fought to give us. This is why we should honour our war dead of ALL conflicts who fought to bring us the freedom we now are having stole from us by a new form of anti-freedom fascist government = new labour.

The IRA bombs and bullets that killed our service men & women aswell as civilians were just as real as any in WW2, our loses just as painfull. Let us honour all those who have stood to keep our nation free & protect the rights of it's citiziens over many generations.
 
#18
Precisely.
You can be a pacifist in this country, but your right to do so has been earned with the blood of others. Others have fought so that you can choose not to fight.
 
#19
Yddap said:
Precisely.
You can be a pacifist in this country, but your right to do so has been earned with the blood of others. Others have fought so that you can choose not to fight.
As you say, everyone should have the right to be a pacifist or even not wear a poppy to honour those in all conflicts who gave their lives to keep this countrys freedom (now sadly being given away by our current government).

Those freedoms are also why immergrants from around the world (the genuine ones) have come here over many generations & settled, because of the freedoms that have been won in the blood of our people.
 
#20
To be fair to Mr Snow, he wears one while off air. He said he gets asked to wear all kinds of stuff, breast cancer ribbons AIDS day stuff on air, and all ways says no. He just doesn't put symbols on his work stuff.

He was fully behind to RBL, but can't make an exception. Good on him. A lot of poeple payed the price so he could, reather than be bullied in to something else.
 

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