Poor UK education standards

[amazing__lobster]

Gave you a like, but unless you’re about 120 years old, it’s hard to be an RE Scaley. You can be Wedge, or Scaley, but not both, unless you change capbadge (eg some LEs).

RE with a signals (small “s”) bent - of course. But not a Scaley. Unles you’re ~120

Haha ok, I was C3S - we called ourselves scaleys, but fair point - I’m sure that’s not what R sigs described us as!

 

[DemsMaShoes]

True, although I also get sense of "throwing out the baby with the bathwater" in many responses.

I am on the downward slope of life; just use my computer for social sites (like Arrse).
Most of what I read here may as well be written in Chinese, as far as my understanding goes.
What are these "e mails" of which you speak?

 

[GrumpyWasTooCheerful]

This is all you’re getting:
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You’re a predatory camera owner who never served in the army nor worked in a school. Probably legally I suspect not even allowed anywhere within 100m of a school. Claims to have previously been a teacher but has no idea about pedagogy and didn’t even know what the term digital native means until I posted the wiki on it. And given the time it is where you are now, also not much more going on than to sit up all night drinking and insulting strangers on the internet. You need help.

Whatever, Walter. Everything you post means another lie you have to remember. I can wait.
Apologies for the thread derailment.

 

[Dreamseller]

I am on the downward slope of life; just use my computer for social sites (like Arrse).
Most of what I read here may as well be written in Chinese, as far as my understanding goes.
What are these "e mails" of which you speak?

It's what a northerner calls someone who transitions

 

[blurp]

What are these "e mails" of which you speak?

I got there in the end with this arcane wizardry. I usually get other people to do any computer work for me in return for kind words and biscuits.

 

[Excognito]

I am on the downward slope of life; just use my computer for antisocial sites (like Arrse).

Corrected it for you. FOC.

Although, my associates and I may ask you for a small favour at some time ...

 

[oldnotbold]

Exactly, and watch the stares you get if on a train (or especially bus or Tube in London) you pull out a physical book and read it or *Lord Have Mercy* starting writing in a notebook or jotter; people look at you as if you've grown horns! Such dumbing down...

Horses for courses, of course, but I was recently congratulated by a passing station cleaner for reading "a real book" rather than having a screen in front of me.

I also have an engineering friend who keeps a slide rule - which his younger staff seem to file as "ritual object" (museum speak for "we don't know what this is or did but it seems important"). Not to mention the kids who had it drilled into them that hand written thank you cards generate more good will than a text, which their grandparents are highly unlikely to see anyway.

 

[Excognito]

That's often not incompetence, just the way they have been trained to use files. I have an iPad I have to use for some applications and I am continually frustrated at how impossible it is to see and move files easily. My Android phone is slightly better but not by much, to the extent it's often easier to re-download a spreadsheet or document for the tenth time than it is to try and find the previous versions already there.

Trying to move a file from my iPad to a Windows PC? I've given up and now email myself anything I need, effectively using the email server as a transfer system.

Speaking of which, organising emails also appears to be something that teenagers are fundamentally clueless about. Lots of them have multiple thousand unread emails which they just ignore and use the search function to find something they might need later.

I've long taken the view that I'll use whichever tool offers the most convenience and least cognitive effort. Many's the time I've been using Mathcad/Mathematica/Maple Flow/Excel/Numbers/whatever to rough up some ideas, and at some point or another, I'll usually pick up pen & paper and scribble out a diagram or some derivation.

And there are possibly good reasons why it pays to be flexible on such matters.

Advantage of Handwriting Over Typing on Learning Words: Evidence From an N400 Event-Related Potential Index

The growing implementation of digital education comes with an increased need to understand the impact of digital tools on learning. Previous behavioral studies have shown that handwriting on paper is more effective for learning than typing on a keyboard. ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[DemsMaShoes]

Horses for courses, of course, but I was recently congratulated by a passing station cleaner for reading "a real book" rather than having a screen in front of me...

On the other hand, a Kindle or suchlike is capable of storing quite a collection of books, rather than just the one you hold?

 

[amazing__lobster]

Whatever, Walter. Everything you post means another lie you have to remember. I can wait.
Apologies for the thread derailment.

To be honest, I don’t really understand much of this post and you do come across as someone who is grossly unwell, but I accept your apology.

 

[GrumpyWasTooCheerful]

On the other hand, a Kindle or suchlike is capable of storing quite a collection of books, rather than just the one you hold?

I can sell a book when I've read it. You can't sell an e-book, as it's not your property.

 

[PepperSeaDog]

I can sell a book when I've read it. You can't sell an e-book, as it's not your property.

Assuming one paid for it in the first place and didn't acquire the books by certain...other means.
Of which I, of course know nothing. Ahem.

 

[GrumpyWasTooCheerful]

Assuming one paid for it in the first place and didn't acquire the books by certain...other means.
Of which I, of course know nothing. Ahem.

Oooooòh, Mark Twain was yer daddy.

 

[amazing__lobster]

On the other hand, a Kindle or suchlike is capable of storing quite a collection of books, rather than just the one you hold?

I prefer reading on an e-reader. I like the fact that on my Kobo I can change the size of the font, increase the spacing between lines, and also the backlight makes it easier to read. I find reading on a decent e-reader screen is nicer than physical paper.

 

[Excognito]

On the other hand, a Kindle or suchlike is capable of storing quite a collection of books, rather than just the one you hold?

However, the UI hasn't yet managed to successfully replicate the 3D page-flipping capability of the multilayer compressed-tree format. Nor the pullout centrefold.

 

[Excognito]

I prefer reading on an e-reader. I like the fact that on my Kobo I can change the size of the font, increase the spacing between lines, and also the backlight makes it easier to read. I find reading on a decent e-reader screen is nicer than physical paper.

At night, that is certainly the case. I can ask Alexa to turn off the room lights and still read using a Kindle app.

However, when adequately lit, I still prefer paper for its look and feel. Plus, Kindle still hasn't replicated that "new textbook" smell. Just the mention of Margenau and Murphy evokes the memory of its scent and sets the serotonin flowing.

 

[DemsMaShoes]

I can sell a book when I've read it. You can't sell an e-book, as it's not your property.

That's just about the best argument I've heard in the paper v electronic book debate.

 

[Lardbeast]

I can sell a book when I've read it. You can't sell an e-book, as it's not your property.

You part with books? How do you sleep at night?

I'm afraid I hoard books. Thank Odin for the Kindle or I'd have run out of space by now.

 

[7gunner]

I am on the downward slope of life; just use my computer for social sites (like Arrse).
Most of what I read here may as well be written in Chinese, as far as my understanding goes.
What are these "e mails" of which you speak?

New description of alpha males….

 

[Eyes_Right]

Welcome to the Arrse IT remedial group...