Poor UK education standards

@Ortholith

Just a quick question before I pass sentencing:

The bit that gets me is the sheer ******* hypocrisy of people willing to judge me. One **** accused me of being unprofessional for turning up in a pair of ironed grey jeans (style error I will admit, it was quite a while ago)
Just HOW long ago are we talking here...1984 or 1985???
For that is the time it was only just remotely acceptable.
 
@Ortholith

Just a quick question before I pass sentencing:



Just HOW long ago are we talking here...1984 or 1985???
I'd have to check the records but I reckon some time around 2010.

If it makes you feel better I was told off for Lowa desert boots around 2018 (spacky feet, ankle support, cheap on eBay and I only wore them in summer). Then I was told if I was going to mentor new teachers I had to dress vaguely appropriately and keep my tie on all day rather than just the first half hour.

I'm still working on loopholes for wearing shorts.
 
I'd have to check the records but I reckon some time around 2010.

If it makes you feel better I was told off for Lowa desert boots around 2018 (spacky feet, ankle support, cheap on eBay and I only wore them in summer). Then I was told if I was going to mentor new teachers I had to dress vaguely appropriately and keep my tie on all day rather than just the first half hour.

I'm still working on loopholes for wearing shorts.
I reckon I have sufficient grounds here for calling you a 'Walt' - on account of wearing Lowas.
I seriously doubt the stormy shores of 'teaching humanities with radio-1 playing in 'da background' qualify one such as yourself to wear Lowas...

Unless you covered your face in animal droppings and was "tactical" at any stage.

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Like an onion you are...
I'm slowly unpeeling it though...you dodgy fecker :)
 
I reckon I have sufficient grounds here for calling you a 'Walt' - on account of wearing Lowas.
I seriously doubt the stormy shores of 'teaching humanities with radio-1 playing in 'da background' qualify one such as yourself to wear Lowas...

Unless you covered your face in animal droppings and was "tactical" at any stage.

Edit..
Like an onion you are...
I'm slowly unpeeling it though...you dodgy fecker :)
I know you can be a bit of a bellend at times but I cannot be accused of being a walt.


The other link went sideways when copy and paste got confused.

I am a bit of a bellend, ****, ******** and whatever nasty word you want to throw at me but I'm not a walt. If nothing else by the time I got out of university I was so broken and held together with Meccano no ****** would have me :p
 
I know you can be a bit of a bellend at times but I cannot be accused of being a walt.


The other link went sideways when copy and paste got confused.

I am a bit of a bellend, ****, ******** and whatever nasty word you want to throw at me but I'm not a walt. If nothing else by the time I got out of university I was so broken and held together with Meccano no ****** would have me :p
I know you are having a beer tonight and...I compelled you to make the above post.
You bit, and you did.

You have much work to do Padawan :)

Somebody (if anyone is actually sober enough) will be along shortly to give the 'staff' answer to my previous posting.
 
I know you are having a beer tonight and...I compelled you to make the above post.
You bit, and you did.

You have much work to do Padawan :)

Somebody (if anyone is actually sober enough) will be along shortly to give the 'staff' answer to my previous posting.
Not really. I was working on a multiple page masterpiece on groups in the staff room with a breakdown by activity and effect.

Since you have cruelly betrayed me I shall visit Pornhub instead. Just not with the left hand as that's been used for eating crisps.
 
I'd have to check the records but I reckon some time around 2010.

If it makes you feel better I was told off for Lowa desert boots around 2018 (spacky feet, ankle support, cheap on eBay and I only wore them in summer). Then I was told if I was going to mentor new teachers I had to dress vaguely appropriately and keep my tie on all day rather than just the first half hour.

I'm still working on loopholes for wearing shorts.
And we discuss the lack of respect, and discipline, in the classroom ;) .
 
Not really. I was working on a multiple page masterpiece on groups in the staff room with a breakdown by activity and effect.

Since you have cruelly betrayed me I shall visit Pornhub instead. Just not with the left hand as that's been used for eating crisps.
I have not betrayed you at all.
Can't you see...???
I have educated you!

Stay away from that hub of porn for we- of the obscure VPN locations..are itching to try and get in to see what all the fuss is about.

Sven. XQBQKl.
Greenland.
 
And we discuss the lack of respect, and discipline, in the classroom ;) .
Personally I'd rather scruffy footwear and someone able to move around the classroom effectively than smart shiny footwear and a teacher kept behind their desk with leg problems.

Ties can **** right off though.
 
Personally I'd rather scruffy footwear and someone able to move around the classroom effectively than smart shiny footwear and a teacher kept behind their desk with leg problems.

Ties can **** right off though.
You have never thrown a board rubber in anger have you?!
Have you ever mentally completed an algorythm of who is most worthy recipient of board rubber on side of swede- and despatched said ordnance efficiently & accurately?....Whilst wearing Lowas????

Feck of about speelong to.
 
You have never thrown a board rubber in anger have you?!
Have you ever mentally completed an algorythm of who is most worthy recipient of board rubber on side of swede- and despatched said ordnance efficiently & accurately?....Whilst wearing Lowas????

Feck of about speelong to.
Should not post when pissed. And yes, that was a massive, Jaws 2 style bite.
 
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Today I spent 3 hours going back over work muppets hadn't bothered to do at home.

Admittedly they are the bottom of the pile but if, after 10 years of education, they still haven't grasped that CO and Co mean different things, what the **** was the point of that previous education? That distinction is something they should leave primary with or, at the very least, understand by year 7.

I'm supposed to be teaching electrolysis theory and displacement reactions to mongs that don't understand carbon monoxide and cobalt aren't the same thing. I do my best but increasingly feel like I'm pissing on Grenfell.
 

lextalionis

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Today I spent 3 hours going back over work muppets hadn't bothered to do at home.

Admittedly they are the bottom of the pile but if, after 10 years of education, they still haven't grasped that CO and Co mean different things, what the **** was the point of that previous education? That distinction is something they should leave primary with or, at the very least, understand by year 7.

I'm supposed to be teaching electrolysis theory and displacement reactions to mongs that don't understand carbon monoxide and cobalt aren't the same thing. I do my best but increasingly feel like I'm pissing on Grenfell.
It keeps them off the streets, I guess. Amusing the white trash is the modus operandi these days.
 
Nope, it's ******* awesome. I'm doing a bit more planning than usual as there isn't the option to change tack if the kids don't understand.

However, there's no behaviour management needed, no unannounced management dropins and, probably best, no parental complaints about their child's lack of progress. Once the work has been pushed out online I have the rest of the working day free to mark the work from the previous day and answer the pile of useless emails.

I've finished working at 2pm every day this week (as opposed to the usual 9 or 10pm) and have done nothing this weekend up until now. The tests coming up won't go well but that's not my fault and I can't be blamed for it.

The work being done is on average pretty poor, the learning from that work is minimal and there is going to be an uphill struggle when the kids eventually get back in to a classroom. Until that point, trebles all round :)

Edit - I am sort of hoping for emails from the parents of a couple of difficult kids about how hard it is to get the little bastards to do anything. I will then smile and reply "Well, it must be something you're doing, they do the work in school". A bit of role reversal could be an interesting learning experience.
I knew it was too good to last. I'm now being asked to be in school teaching 3 hour long lessons several times a week and record videos for students and set up 'online lessons' as well as the previous expectations for tailored instructions and work and marking students' work and giving feedback.

All of which means I should be doing 3 different things for the same group (written powerpoint notes, online lesson and then taught lesson a day or two later). Management are quite happily gobbing off about "Oh, you only need to mark one piece of work per group per week" which I'm sure is fine if you're management and teach 1 group per week. Those of us mere mortals who teach 13 groups per week might find that a bit more of a challenge.

It doesn't help that there have been some recommendations reported today that are about as coherent as a Glaswegian given the key to a distillery - Guidance for full opening - schools

" It is strong public health advice that staff in secondary schools maintain distance from their pupils, staying at the front of the class, and away from their colleagues where possible. Ideally, adults should maintain 2 metre distance from each other, and from children. " Yeah, right.

"For children old enough, they should also be supported to maintain distance and not touch staff and their peers where possible" but at the same time "School attendance will therefore be mandatory again from the beginning of the autumn term."

So children need to be kept apart and staff should not be within 2 metres of anyone but at the same time 30+ children should be crammed into a room. It's a massive pile of bollocks.

Edit - and bellends are still spamming my inbox with pub groups and yoga groups and ******* flower arranging groups. 11 working days left to go.
 
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lextalionis

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I wonder why you put up with it. I only work as a private tutor (or, "Tutor to the Gentry and Quality", when they pay the full-rate) - no paperwork, I work on my own terms and the results are amazing. I've pulled the plug on tutees for the rest of this "school year" because it was going nowhere and I didn't want to flog a dead horse.

A tutee's mother rang tonight and her little darling has been in school the last week or two (after two weeks' tutoring with me) and she said he'd learnt more in maths with me in a fortnight than in school in a year. She makes millions and she's going to demand (the school) that I tutor her son in school (a leafy, expensive private school).

Now the fun bit is drawing up the contract. £40 an hour plus mileage; no interference; paperwork to be completed at full-rate; no nonsensical "learning walks"; contract termination fees. If they get huffy, I can wave my letters patent at them.

I often wonder why the few good teachers left remain in those dreadful prisons now termed "schools".
 
I often wonder why the few good teachers left remain in those dreadful prisons now termed "schools".
Honestly? The main thing is the feeling that I'm giving the young buggers the same chance I got. My school wasn't fantastic (it's made the national news for a stabbing) but the teachers there worked bloody hard for those of us that wanted to succeed.

I'll do the same thing until it feels like I'm not making a difference and at that point I'll jump ship. I thought the collapse and **** up would happen this September but COVID might have altered that.
 

lextalionis

Old-Salt
Honestly? The main thing is the feeling that I'm giving the young buggers the same chance I got. My school wasn't fantastic (it's made the national news for stabbing) but the teachers there worked bloody hard for those of us that wanted to succeed.

I'll do the same thing until it feels like I'm not making a difference and at that point I'll jump ship. I thought the collapse and **** up would happen this September but COVID might have altered that.
I do feel for you. You are one of a noble and dying breed.

Hasn't the collapse already happened? Even the "good" and (sick-bucket ready) "OUTSTANDING" schools are now dreadful. And still the heads go home with six-figure salaries. It's appalling.
 
I do feel for you. You are one of a noble and dying breed.
Nope, I'm a scruffy lazy bastard. I just happen to quite like teaching (the paperwork can get fucked).

Hasn't the collapse already happened? Even the "good" and (sick-bucket ready) "OUTSTANDING" schools are now dreadful. And still the heads go home with six-figure salaries. It's appalling.
Dreadful is a strong word. Having spent time in a Requires Improvement school things are pretty much golden in decent schools. Most of it depends on the management team - if they have a spine and are willing to stand up to parents then there's no real issue. If they actually go out of their way to back teachers then it's a paradise (that doesn't happen often).

If management are scared of parents then you're fucked, no matter how good things look on the outside. I heard some interesting comments from a teacher at one of the UK's most prestigious public schools who was moaning about how parents demanded grade As (it was about 8 years ago) despite their child being thick as two short planks. The argument was if the parents are paying £40k per term then the kid should get As.
 

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