So 3 and a half decades ago? That's the sort of time I was born, it's before a lot of current trainee teachers were born, it's before quite a few parents of the current secondary school kids were born.It is your “chalk face” . . . so carry-on.
Apologies for harking back to the dark days of 1986 !!
On that I totally agree with you. The point is that for a minority of children they aren't. Wishful thinking about belting them does not change that failure of parenting.Self discipline, social awareness, personal responsibility, acceptable norms of “good behaviour”, should all have been instilled, encouraged, and established before secondary school.
In the nicest possible way, get fucked. Are you blaming the parents for their uncontrollable little shits or total lack of interest in their offspring's education? The sad fact is that by the time a child gets to secondary school their personality, attitude and likely exam grades are usually mapped out by that stage.The argument may be about encouraging self-discipline . . . but, if there are - clearly - no repercussions for NOT behaving, then expect the problems you have now . . . and to which you teachers then subject the greater population, when the feral little sods leave the school gates, for good.
Thanks. If you want to make some attempt at fixing the system the answer is not normalising violence between teacher and student. What would make a big difference is if schools could get rid of the nasty violent disruptive students that ruin their own education and the education of other students around them.No, I am NOT a teacher, but for the last ten year, I have been transporting those excluded from mainstream schooling, to their designated “Special” places of education.
Those “excluded”, would be the ones with “no limits”, the ones unaware of their personal responsibilities; the ones who have themselves NOW been failed by the liberal, “right-on”, self-expression, personal development, individual fulfilment, that has failed society as a whole - and the individuals - for at least a couple of generations.
Currently to be expelled requires consistent shit behaviour over a period of at least 6 months, a behaviour management plan to be drawn up, evidence collected from anyone involved, meetings between senior teachers and management and governors, a 'managed move' to a different school, that managed move to fail, then repeat the above process a couple more times before it's finally decided that child is not suitable to remain in school.
The local authority are still legally required to provide an education so thousands of pounds will be spent providing an online education through a 'virtual school' or the student will be referred to a PRU.