Poor UK education standards

Been two in the list, nearly went mad. Take care, no job is worth your sanity.
Thanks for the concern. It's just a job and none of the little shits will come to my funeral.

The real difference with teaching and every other job I mentioned is if I **** up, no one dies. I have a seriously easy ride compared to most other public sector jobs and I'm well aware of it.
 
Thanks for the concern. It's just a job and none of the little shits will come to my funeral.

The real difference with teaching and every other job I mentioned is if I **** up, no one dies. I have a seriously easy ride compared to most other public sector jobs and I'm well aware of it.
You OK mate?
 
I think it is the same for all subjects - make it dull. I have not read it yet, but this week's local paper has a story about a local school holding a special 'Fun Maths' day.

Many of us would have our own ideas about what that could be, but just in the same way boys can be interested in reading by giving them stories that appeal to them, so can anything else. One size does not fit all.
Is that true though? I mean about giving stories that "appeal" to boys. I went to school in the 1950's, and started out reading very boring stories in the series called "Dick and Dora". Also some character called "Old Lob", who kept going up a ladder, as I recall.

Anyway these school curriculum books, even though they didn't "appeal" much for their content, taught me to read. Because I wanted to learn to read. It "appealed" to me.

And there I think is the essential point. Some kids, a minority - want to learn. Because learning things "appeals" to them. But the majority of kids are not like that. They couldn't give a stuff. They just want to shout, and misbehave, and be rude to the teachers. They are different. Not really civilised. More like throwbacks to the savage past.

So this modern phantasm that all children can be educated and go to University is false. Only a small minority of the human race can be ever be truly educated, and become fully civilised.

This was well recognised in past ages. Why don't we accept and acknowledge it today?
 
Er, yes?

I've done my extracurricular stuff for this half term, am sat down with a big plate of mash and spam fritters and am planning on doing **** all before going back to work on Tuesday.

If I choose to turn up extremely hungover on Tuesday morning the worst that will happen is some Year 11 students will get a bad class photo with me looking like someone's shat in my briefcase.
 
Er, yes?

I've done my extracurricular stuff for this half term, am sat down with a big plate of mash and spam fritters and am planning on doing **** all before going back to work on Tuesday.

If I choose to turn up extremely hungover on Tuesday morning the worst that will happen is some Year 11 students will get a bad class photo with me looking like someone's shat in my briefcase.
You can pm me anytime, if you need to abuse someone
 
Bits of that just won't work but I like most of it. I'm not trying to be an arse but just being realistic.


Where is this money coming from?



In my opinion that's not practicable without a major reshuffle on school admittance. You would need 3 schools in each local area to cater for it and there's no way a single mum living next door to the grammar school is going to be refused entry for her kids rather than sending them on a half hour bus ride to St Thicko's Secondary Modern.



Oh dear lord no. They'll make more mess than they deal with.



So all the english, maths and science teachers that have been teaching their subjects in the morning, what do they do in the afternoon? I guarantee you take the average British teenager and say "You have 2 hours to do project work", they will do 10 minutes of project work and 1 hour 50 minutes of trying to get around the porn filter. What would you have done at that age?


We've got them, only they are used to deal with relatively major discipline issues. Well, that's the theory but it ends up being 'who's pissed off senior management'.


That I would vote for. Again, the question of who is staffing, policing and paying for these camps though.
Pfft! Work camps. Pound the treadmill all day for food and air time for their phones.

Bonus side effect is little SJW heads going pop alles uber die platz. Result!
 
If you asked anyone I worked with they would tell you what a bad idea that would be.

As I had to explain to the Head last term, I'm very good at pointing out problems, not good at suggesting solutions. Also, it turns out saying "that class make me want to open a vein" within earshot of grownups is also frowned upon.
As long as its the right vein belonging to those who cause you grief.
 
Is that true though? I mean about giving stories that "appeal" to boys. I went to school in the 1950's, and started out reading very boring stories in the series called "Dick and Dora". Also some character called "Old Lob", who kept going up a ladder, as I recall.

Anyway these school curriculum books, even though they didn't "appeal" much for their content, taught me to read. Because I wanted to learn to read. It "appealed" to me.

And there I think is the essential point. Some kids, a minority - want to learn. Because learning things "appeals" to them. But the majority of kids are not like that. They couldn't give a stuff. They just want to shout, and misbehave, and be rude to the teachers. They are different. Not really civilised. More like throwbacks to the savage past.

So this modern phantasm that all children can be educated and go to University is false. Only a small minority of the human race can be ever be truly educated, and become fully civilised.

This was well recognised in past ages. Why don't we accept and acknowledge it today?
Surely everyone prefers to learn about things they are interested in? Hence boys prefer stories about things like motorbike or cops and robbers. The problem is society has adopted an anti boy culture, and the boys are simply not interested.

What does 'educated' mean? Basic reading and writing, GCSEs, A level or equivalent, or what?

Off topic - some times I do circuit training that is held at a local school. Last time I was there I noticed a display with the names of Head Boy and Head Girl over the years. What is that all about? We had nothing like that at our school.
 

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I'm currently back in hospital for observation and am working on the second rewrite of a paper on exploitation of Nazi technologies. One of the nurses wondered what I was doing - surrounded by loads of articles and other papers (benefit of a private room!). I explained how I was writing about Britain's chronic inability to exploit Nazi technology after the war. She seemed a bit hazy (or it might have been boredom) until I called up maps of both flying bomb and V-2 attacks on London. We looked out the window on to a line of terraced houses opposite and I pointed out the 1970s section in the middle and linked it back to a V-1 strike on the laptop map. And a number of deaths.

In spite of the War being near omnipresent in British culture and taught at schools (especially the Home Front), it seemed a complete revelation to her. She only had a hazy idea about when the war (WW2) was and conflated it with WW1. And the nurse, probably about 25, is a graduate...
 
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What is a school prefect?
Apparently a good school prefect possesses sound morals, good interpersonal skills and organizational skills. A good prefect should also be mature, empathetic and patient. School prefects are required to supervise students, promote a healthy work ethic, and fulfil any other duty delegated by the school's headmaster.
 
Surely everyone prefers to learn about things they are interested in? Hence boys prefer stories about things like motorbike or cops and robbers. The problem is society has adopted an anti boy culture, and the boys are simply not interested.

What does 'educated' mean? Basic reading and writing, GCSEs, A level or equivalent, or what?

Off topic - some times I do circuit training that is held at a local school. Last time I was there I noticed a display with the names of Head Boy and Head Girl over the years. What is that all about? We had nothing like that at our school.
Head boys and girls plus prefects are nothing new. We had them at my school. Although there was never a list displayed on any wall. Do they still have fagging at any of your old schools?
 
I'm currently back in hospital for observation and am working on the second rewrite of a paper on exploitation of Nazi technologies. One of the nurses wondered what I was doing - surrounded by loads of articles and other papers (benefit of a private room!). I explained how I was writing g about Britian's chronic inability to exploit Nazi technology after the war. She seemed a bit hazy (or it might have been boredom) until I called up maps of both flying bomb and V2 attacks on London. We looked out the window on to a line of terraced houses opposite and I pointed out the 1970s section in the middle and linked it back to a V1 strike on the laptop map. And a number of deaths.

In spite of the War being near omnipresent in British culture and taught at schools (especially the Home Front), it seemed a complete revelation to her. She only had a hazy idea about when the war (WW2) was and conflated it with WW1. And the nurse, probably about 25, is a graduate...
As a nation we seem to be embarrassed to talk about the two World Wars, meaning they are less of a cultural point of reference than they could be, or perhaps should be. When I was considering things like a start up business I listened to a talk about getting your life in order and pulling in one direction, and he used the example of Britain (and Commonwealth) during WW2.

Shared hardships and dangers, people from different backgrounds and parts of the social spectrum working together for the common good, improvisation, making the best of things.....

It is (or at least used to be) part of our shared cultural heritage.
 
I'm currently back in hospital for observation and am working on the second rewrite of a paper on exploitation of Nazi technologies. One of the nurses wondered what I was doing - surrounded by loads of articles and other papers (benefit of a private room!). I explained how I was writing g about Britian's chronic inability to exploit Nazi technology after the war. She seemed a bit hazy (or it might have been boredom) until I called up maps of both flying bomb and V2 attacks on London. We looked out the window on to a line of terraced houses opposite and I pointed out the 1970s section in the middle and linked it back to a V1 strike on the laptop map. And a number of deaths.

In spite of the War being near omnipresent in British culture and taught at schools (especially the Home Front), it seemed a complete revelation to her. She only had a hazy idea about when the war (WW2) was and conflated it with WW1. And the nurse, probably about 25, is a graduate...
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