Politicians won seats with fake proxy votes

#6
What I find particularly frightening is this:

The pair were caught by their stupidity. They submitted proxy voting forms implying that hundreds of voters in the poorest corner of Burnley, largely populated by immigrants and pensioners, would be unable to vote in person because they were simultaneously taking lengthy foreign holidays. The returning officer smelt a rat and called in the police.
So if they'd been a bit more canny, they probably wouldn't have been sussed. It makes me wonder why automatic checks aren't in place to keep such people honest. It also makes me wonder how many (much more astute) politicians have got away with it.
 
#7
sheldrake said:
Not where I come from Sergey old chap.
Sorry, I haven't seen your remark.

There is a similar problem in other countries. Recently Russian TV reported about a ring of corruptioners (ethnically Azeris). It included several policmen (including a head of local police station), head of local adminictration, members of local council, criminals, traders and so on. They organised a channel for illegal immigrants. Many were granted Russian citizenship. The whole villages I believe arrived in Russia. This criminal ring faked a documents for newcomers for appartments of poor lone Russian pensioners. Many of them disappeared.

I hope that in the UK it is impossible.
 
#9
Sven said:
sheldrake said:
Not where I come from Sergey old chap.
I suppose You have proper Anglish names like Hereward and Beowulf, eh Sheldrake :roll:
Touche, Sven.

You're quite right to pick me up on that, I should have said British. As a proud Cornishman I do have a British name.

So run that up the flagpole and salute it, you spiky rodent!

Regards

Jowan
 
#10
What I have trouble believing is the last sentence in that article. This pair were convicted of a crime which, whilst not as serious as some, is still serious enough that I hope the court is considering jail terms for both.

Then they get let out on bail. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't these two now have every incentive to disappear?
 
#11
"another blow to confidence in the British election system"

Did I miss something, was there 'confidence' in the first place, all voting systems are up for corruption, look how bLair got in, I cant find anyone who admits voting for him last time LOL
 
#12
They submitted proxy voting forms implying that hundreds of voters in the poorest corner of Burnley, largely populated by immigrants and pensioners, would be unable to vote in person because they were simultaneously taking lengthy foreign holidays
(my bold)

Must have taken them all night to think up that cunning ruse!
 
#14
"another blow to confidence in the British election system"

No cause for complacency, but it was the returning officer who called in the police.
 
#15
sheldrake said:
Manzur Hussain and Mozaquir Ali

Good old fashioned English names, I see............
Yes, very similar names to those what were found to have engaged in fruad during the local authority election in Birmingham won by Labour that was described in court as 'shaming a 'Banana Republic'.

I am ashamed that the Council of Europe should be sending observers to monitor our elections. I can understand it in places such as Zimbabwe but I cannot understand it in England.

If the job was less cushy, lucrative, well paid, less well 'expensed' and actually existed to serve the public I doubt they would actually have bothered!

Politics is obviously a job to kill for!
 
#16
Custodial sentence at least I would hope. They're not Labour councillors, so there's every chance of it happening. Good. Maybe the EC can administer punitive fines as well.

I've made the point over and over again everytime we have these discussions. Postal fraud is rampant in this community. Those of you who've been here long enough will remember the last discussion on "creative voting" in Brumistan.

The last legthy discussion we had on this was concerning this case

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4406575.stm

Those of us involved at the time, were particularly upset by this....

West Midlands Police told BBC News that they were currently not pursuing a criminal inquiry.

A spokesman for the force said: "We will review the judgement and see if any issues need to be addressed. Nothing relating to the case is in progress at the moment."
In spite of the weight of evidence presented. The judge's comments enphasising his disgust are here http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1555518,00.html
 
#17
"The case comes only days after the Council of Europe sent human rights inspectors to England to see the scale of election fraud.

The scandal is the latest to arise from Tony Blair’s decision to improve turnout at elections by giving everyone the right to vote by post."

Britian NEVER had a case on the mainland where the parlimentry vote was suspect.
This matter is the one for which Blur must never be forgotten and must stand as his LEGACY.
john
European Inspectors judgeing on a British Election, this what it has now come down to
Hanging would be too good.
 
#18
sheldrake said:
Sven said:
sheldrake said:
Not where I come from Sergey old chap.
I suppose You have proper Anglish names like Hereward and Beowulf, eh Sheldrake :roll:
Touche, Sven.

You're quite right to pick me up on that, I should have said British. As a proud Cornishman I do have a British name.

So run that up the flagpole and salute it, you spiky rodent!

Regards

Jowan
You miss the point

Can You give me a surname which is British and not French, Scandinavian, German etc etc etc.


Back on thread. As a member of the Lib Dems I am ashamed of these ex councillors, but - as hackle said - without being complacent they were picked up by the system.
 

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