Politicians being persecuted like the Jews

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  1. And yet another one who still does not understand. And feels it unfair that he was 'forced' to resign.

    David Wilshire, the disgraced Conservative MP, has compared the treatment of politicians over their expense claims to the plight of Jews in Nazi Germany.

    David Wilshire, who is standing down over his expenses Photo: PA
    Mr Wilshire, who was forced to resign after paying more than £100,000 in expenses to his own company, said the “witch hunt” against MPs “will undermine democracy”.

    “Branding a whole group of people as undesirables led to Hitler’s gas chambers,” he added.

    The Tory MP used his office expenses to write to all his constituents defending his claims and attacking The Daily Telegraph.

    Voters in his Spelthorne constituency were surprised to receive a two-page letter, written on Commons notepaper and sent using taxpayer-funded pre-paid envelopes, in which he said that he was “devastated” at having to stand down.

    A voter who emailed to protest at Mr Wilshire’s behaviour received the reply in which Mr Wilshire compared MPs whose claims were exposed during the expenses scandal to Holocaust victims.

    The response goes even further than Alan Duncan, the former shadow leader of the House, who was secretly recorded complaining that MPs were now forced to “live off rations” in the wake of the expenses scandal. Mr Duncan was later demoted from the Conservative front bench.

    Mr Wilshire wrote: “The witch hunt against MPs in general will undermine democracy. It will weaken parliament - handing yet more power to governments. Branding a whole group of people as undesirables led to Hitler's gas chambers.”

    The email was sent four days after Mr Wilshire wrote to his constituents with his version of the events which led him to announce that he would stand down from Parliament at the election.

    Earlier this month, The Daily Telegraph disclosed that he had paid £105,000 from his office expenses to Moorlands Research Services, a firm owned himself and his girlfriend.

    He told his constituents that he had been “attacked” by the Telegraph, but was writing: “with a clear conscience”.

    Mr Wilshire confirmed that the letters were sent using House of Commons envelopes, which are available to MPs to enable them to “facilitate their parliamentary duties.”

    Adding that he was “entitled to explain” himself to his constituents, he said: “It is in accord with the rules.”

    But one recipient, Christopher Frazer, wrote back to the MP calling on him to quit Parliament immediately rather than staying on until the election.

    He said: “Thank you for your letter dated October 26 about your MPs expenses.

    “I enjoyed reading it, as will others: a more appropriate form of apology, however, would be to resign forthwith rather than mouthing on about having a ‘clear conscience,’ ‘a very heavy heart,’ feeling that ‘I have let you down’ and so on.”

    Mr Frazer, a Tory voter who stood as a Conservative candidate in the 1992 general election, said that he was glad that the MP was quitting, as he would not have felt able to support him at the general election.

    House of Commons guidance on the use of free stationery says that MPs may send a maximum of £7,000 worth of pre-paid envelopes.

    It goes on: “It is your responsibility to ensure that all expenditure funded under the Communications Allowance and the provision of House stationery and pre-paid envelopes is wholly, exclusively and necessarily incurred on your Parliamentary duties.

    "You are responsible for ensure that your use of ... House stationery and pre-paid envelopes is above reproach.”

    Mr Wilshire defended his use of the envelopes, however, saying: “People want to know about what is happening.

    “There was obviously concern, and because there was concern I wanted to contact them to let them know about the situation.”

    In his letter, the MP complained of being the victim of “false allegations” and insisted that his company was “a properly constituted business”.

    He added: “This use of allowances to help an MP do his/her job is completely within Parliament’s rules.”

    John Lyon, the Westminster sleaze watchdog, has launched an investigation after Mr Wilshire referred his claims to him.

    The MP said: “With a very heavy heart I concluded that standing down as your MP was the best way to help my constituents, our national party, you as its local members and my family.

    “The investigations being made at my request by the Commissioner for Standards will take time.

    “This would probably have meant an election campaign without the closure needed to put these allegations behind us.

    “It would have been unkind of me to subject you to the type of local election campaign that would have taken place.

    “Needless to say, I am devastated by having to give up a job I love and knowing that my 22 years of service will probably be remembered for unfounded allegations. I feel I have let you down.”

  2. Tragic.
    The Jews didn't deserve it, the MP's do.
  3. I've heard that some MPs with very dodgy expenses claims, which as you'd imagine hasn't gone down well with their constituents, are stepping down at the next election.

    The honourable thing to do you might think. However you underestimate the brass neck of this breed. For they are merely popping up in another seat where their history maybe less well known.

    Of course we trust them.
  4. Unfortunately, we will NOT be applying the Final Solution to the MP Problem. :roll:

    Pity. I was rather looking forward to signing up with the ARRSE Einsatzkommando... :twisted:

  5. Indeed, something like 200 or so are stepping down now the trough has been closed down… translation, over 200 MP's were only in it for the money... :evil:

    On the brighter side, over 100 MP's who've been playing at property investors using their expenses are going to be in deep dodo now and will have to sell the houses they bought far beyond their means to afford on their basic salaries… shame. :twisted:
  6. Not the only reason; IIRC, by jumping now, they qualify for a golden parachute. This will change after the next election. :roll:
  7. It was only a shower.
  8. Another pathetic winger, that was perhaps not the brightest thing he could have said. Now leave parliament, we don't want you any more and think yourself lucky there is nothing worse coming to you than paying back what you stole.
  9. Who cares about some overpaid clown , send them all to Afghanistan to find the IEDs for the Troops
  10. What this knobhead (and others just like him) fails to understand is that the poor Jooz did nothing at all to deserve their tragic fate, but the UK MPs were solely responsible themselves for what (happily) befell them. Only it didn't go nearly far enough.

  11. [Pedant mode ON]

    It's whinger (as in to 'whinge' about peoples spelling)

    [Pedant mode OFF]

    Of course if you were an MP, you could have paid your wife/daughter £31,000+ to proof read your posts for you :D

    If they are being treated like Jews in a cocncentration camp can I have 2 bars of soap and a lampshade please?
  12. I think you'll find that should be pedantry.
  13. goody can we randomly mortar them now :twisted:
  14. BIt of a stupid post, WOTW. You do know this is not only read by you mate?

    Anyway, even if he did not deserve to go because of expense overcalims, he deserves to go for making such an utterly crass and insensitive comparison.

    Slightly OT, but in the gleeful leap to slag off MPs, there seems to be ignorance of the way in which MPs where positively encouraged to submit expenses. The whining population of the UK would not tolerate the massive payrise that ( annoyingly for some ) MPs should actually receive for running the country. The expenses where not theft, in the main; although I have no doubt that claiming for moat cleaning is taking the pish.

    Changing the rules to make MPs pay back claims that where made perfectly legitinatly is also just wrong; its exactly the same is if a driver suddenly received a ticket for doing 35mph in a 40 mph limit area, after they'd checked with the local Plod to confirm that, prior to driving down that rod, the speed limit was 40.

    Retrospectively changing the speed limit and then ticketing people is just wrong; and it is happening with the MPs and some expense claims.

    Cue the uninformed whinging.
  15. I'd prefer to randomly concrete them.
    Into a deep hole.