Political Correctness and Halloween

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  1. I have just been informed by my ex-wife that the local leisure centre are trying the political correctness approach and using religion as the excuse.

    As part of her business venture she has hired two halls on the weekend of the 28th October to run what has been termed a 'Halloween adventure'. Basically a large party for the kids involving all sorts of animals for the children such as a Boa constrictor, bearded dragon, tarantula and the list goes on.

    After the booking for one of the halls was made she then put out fliers and the leisure centre have phoned and cancelled the booking as 'Halloween' would offend too many people on religious grounds. This is an area that is predominantly white and christian. Other minority religious groups account for less than 5% of the local population.

    Halloween, from my limited research, has roots in paganism - defined as a religion with beliefs arising from other than Abrahamic roots (Not christian, Jewish or Muslim). Surprisisngly then paganism accounts for the religious beliefs of over 50% of the worlds population.

    Really at a loss to see how that can offend and more so as it is a themed party for children, primarily under ten years of age.

    Any views?
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  2. Another example of the white middle class being "over protective" of "minorities" (who probably wouldn't give a fcuk anyway!)
  3. Well personally I would sue on the grounds of religious discrimination.

    Your Mrs maight be a Paganist or a Wiccan and the local w@nkers who cancelled her booking are denigrating her beliefs.

    Got to be worth a few quid in damages?

    Halloween is a religious day of significance for Wiccans.

    Or to look at it from the other side, Halloween celebrations are a Septic import that has nothing to do with European/UK culture and is epitome of crass, U.S.-style commercialism so it should be banned.
  4. Bloody typical all going a bit far now! Surely religion being flaunted in your face is offensive? So why have the turban where they are showing the world their religion, likewise with the mosques all over UK etc...

    Another reason why I ain't gonna stop there abroad for me! A rule for one another for the Anglo saxons!

    Good luck but I don't think you will get far!
  5. Hallows ' Eve is the actual original term!
  6. only people who worry about hallowean are christian god bothers.
    equal opps claim to be a wiccan and complain to council equalties officer then sit back and enjoy the fun.
    also phone the stun and get your piccy in a national newspaper for some free publicity :twisted:
  7. Agreed
  8. its for kiddies for trucks sake, "may upset the minority" well here a shocker for you , it's pissing off the MAJORITY" BNP figures continue to rise!
  9. Stop waffling, name, shame and an email address. The weak quickly back down.

    Simple :twisted:
  10. See, this is how the intellectually bankrupt get away with their petty bans and restrictions.

    Halloween, far from being an American import, is a European export - which, admittedly, the Americans have somewhat bastardised.

    Neither is it a, "Wiccan," festival.

    It's origins are in the Celtic New Year. October 31 was the end of the Celtic year, Samhain. It marked the end of one pastoral year (the harvest being completed) and the beginning of the next. Death into life.

    It was an very spiritual time where the the Otherworld (bogles and the like) became visible - probably because Tesco hadn't been invented and not quite knowing where the next meal was coming from must have set off the odd qualm.

    Christianity, when it arrived took over the pagan festival as the eve of All Hallows or All Saints. The harvest festivals becoming Martinmas and Lammas, depending on geography.

    So it is a custom and tradition (however skewed now) far older and rooted in reality than some johnny-cum-lately practises currently practised in these isles.
  11. Whilst I agree with both Steven and Norge that it really is an Americanisum, the kids seem to enjoy it and if taken at face value is fun for all concerned........apart from my pocket.


    1. Speak to the local vicars and see if they have a problem. Those that don't, get them to right a letter supporting your wife and ask them to contact the leisure centre.

    2. Get a good Solicitor to then draft a nice "this is going to cost you a fortune" letter to the council and leisure centre.

    3. Speak to the local rags, radio to drum up support.

    Sit back and let loose the dogs of war.
  12. I was sort of agreeing with you right up until the bit in bold.

    Which reality is that then?

    Only sort of agreeing because All Hallows or Celtic New Year* is not what I mentioned. Haloween as it is "celebrated" today is a crass US import.

    *Will have to do some research on this because it sounds a bit dodgy to me, why would New year be in the middle of a season/lunar cycle??

    Edited to add.

    Ok "Celtic New Year" is near enough for arrse :)

  13. Are we still OK to burn a catholic in effigy on 5th November?
  14. Steven,

    It's the pastoral New year.

    The harvest being in is the important point here. That grub now has to last.

    Basically, the point I was trying to make, is that in that particular religious and agrarian mindset, having that festival with the accompanying conotations of fear and death and visits from the ancestors pending the next availability of scoff strikes me as more real than believing in clouds and harps or magic gardens, for instance.