Police with the forces?

#1
Ive been told that civvy police cannot arrest military personel and it is left up to the military police to deal with it.

Is that true?
 

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#4
fluffer said:
Ive been told that civvy police cannot arrest military personel and it is left up to the military police to deal with it.

It that true?
Not true in the slightest degree.

American forces can be arrested by civpol, but are usually dealt with by their own authorities under the auspices of The Visiting Forces Act. This even covers capital crimes, such as murder, rape and Arson.
 
#5
fluffer said:
Ive been told that civvy police cannot arrest military personel and it is left up to the military police to deal with it.

It that true?
Even the German Bobbies can arrest us :( However on the Night of the Magnificent Seven one was heard to mention "For you Tommy ze var is over" which made it all worth while.

Off thread is there any truth to the old dit about Military Fines going to RHC? If so I should have paid for the new wing single handed by now. :oops:
 
#6
fluffer said:
Ive been told that civvy police cannot arrest military personel and it is left up to the military police to deal with it.

It that true?
True. Under the Military Powers Act (1938) civil authorities, including police, ARP wardens, Civil Defence personnel and most other local and national organisations may not:

"(iii) Arrest, detain, restrict or otherwise contain the liberty of a member of the Armed Forces(2), except (vi) at the command of the appropriate Military Authority(xiii)."

Don't believe me? Take a swing at a copper then quote the above Act to him. Laugh like a drain as he realises he can't do a thing.
 
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#8
fluffer said:
Ive been told that civvy police cannot arrest military personel and it is left up to the military police to deal with it.

Is that true?
No. If it's within their jurisdiction, they can lift you.
 
#10
dogmeat said:
fluffer said:
Ive been told that civvy police cannot arrest military personel and it is left up to the military police to deal with it.

It that true?
True. Under the Military Powers Act (1938) civil authorities, including police, ARP wardens, Civil Defence personnel and most other local and national organisations may not:

"(iii) Arrest, detain, restrict or otherwise contain the liberty of a member of the Armed Forces(2), except (vi) at the command of the appropriate Military Authority(xiii)."

Don't believe me? Take a swing at a copper then quote the above Act to him. Laugh like a drain as he realises he can't do a thing.
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
#11
twosugarsnomilk said:
dogmeat said:
fluffer said:
Ive been told that civvy police cannot arrest military personel and it is left up to the military police to deal with it.

It that true?
True. Under the Military Powers Act (1938) civil authorities, including police, ARP wardens, Civil Defence personnel and most other local and national organisations may not:

"(iii) Arrest, detain, restrict or otherwise contain the liberty of a member of the Armed Forces(2), except (vi) at the command of the appropriate Military Authority(xiii)."

Don't believe me? Take a swing at a copper then quote the above Act to him. Laugh like a drain as he realises he can't do a thing.
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
What he said! Google it, there is no such Act!
 
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#12
Trotsky said:
So the squaddy me and one of my specials nicked last weekend was unlawfull then?

I think not (though he seemed to)

Trotsky
You're obvioulsy unfamiliar with the 'Sevice Personnel Immunity From Any Wrongdoing Act 1923' then Constable?

May I draw your attention to s.1, which states 'A person is not guilty of any offence whatsoever, despite his conduct or state of sobriety, if he is the rightful keeper of an MOD F 90, whether in possession of said document at the material time, or not, and 'squaddie', 'barrack room lawyer' and 'arsewipe' shall be construed accordingly.'

May I suggest you read up on said Act?
 
#14
When the young Welsh soldier died from a 'beasting' he happened to die in Salisbury General Hospital which meant that the Service Police had no jurisdiction over the case and Wiltshire Constabulary dealt with it throughout.

The Deepcut deaths were dealt with by the Service Police as they occued on MOD property, so that leads me to believe that the actual location of the event seems to decide who has jurisdiction. I may be wrong though.
 
#16
In Salisbury young squaddies are arrested for fighting and being overly drunk every single weekend. The RMP are usually in the centre on Friday and Saturday nights and the police are happy to hand them over for the following reasons:

a. They do not have to go back to the station and fill out mounds of paperwork.

b. They can remain in the centre for further trouble and their numbers are not diminished (along with a vehicle)

c. The army punishment will be harsher than the 'bound over to keep the peace' they would get from the local magistrates.

The service police and constabulary work well together in salisbury.
 
#17
I think the Deepcut deaths involved the local constabulary with SIB assisting.

RMP work closely with civil police (joint patrols etc) and civpol certainly do have the power to arrest soldiers.
 
#18
Here's a question then: can the RMP arrest civilians?

I think yes. That being the case, its is purely a question of convenience and jurisdiction between neighbouring authorities.
 
#19
Dragstrip said:
Here's a question then: can the RMP arrest civilians?

I think yes. That being the case, its is purely a question of convenience and jurisdiction between neighbouring authorities.
No, they have no power of arrest over civilians other than the same 'civilian' power of arrest that everyone has
 
#20
Daytona955 said:
Dragstrip said:
Here's a question then: can the RMP arrest civilians?

I think yes. That being the case, its is purely a question of convenience and jurisdiction between neighbouring authorities.
No, they have no power of arrest over civilians other than the same 'civilian' power of arrest that everyone has
Cheers. I assumed that they could. Denied.