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Police warn parents after mob attacks

#1
It's A Clockwork Orange 2005!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1634945,00.html

I do not have the desire to be either a victim of harassment or violence and I am fortunate enough to live in an area that sees little trouble.

However, in the unlikely event of any trouble, I keep to hand a 3 foot long section of wood that handles very much like a baseball bat and that has a legitimate and prominent household function.

And, if placed in an unpleasant situation, I will have no compunction in swinging it with great force and furthermore, in the event of an unsympathetic hearing from the local bobbies, I will refuse to give them any co-operation beyond my name and address and will use all necessary efforts to smear the force (and divisional officers) in the press as soft on crime and tough on householders, whilst waiting for prosecutors to drop the case because of a lack of co-operation and general hassle.

Paranoid or realistic?

Police warn parents after mob attacks
By Lewis Smith

POLICE have urged parents to take greater responsibility for their children’s upbringing and behaviour, after two gang attacks — one of which left a householder needing surgery to rebuild his face.
The man and two neighbours were attacked by 40 youths outside their homes. They had gone to talk to the teenagers, who had begun throwing objects at cars and houses. A row ensued and the men were savagely attacked by members of the group.

Two boys, aged 15 and 16, were arrested on suspicion of violent disorder on Saturday and were released on bail pending further inquiries.

The attack, in Dunston, Northamptonshire, prompted the senior investigating police officer to urge parents to take greater responsibility for their children.

“It is unacceptable that residents should have to put up with this behaviour,” said Superintendent Simon Blatchly. “At least some of the young people in this group have now been involved in serious offences and parents must tell their children in the strongest possible terms that they should not gather on the streets in this way.

“We will be working closely with the agencies involved and using all the powers available to us to deal with these issues, but parents must take on board their key role.”

The 48-year-old man who required facial surgery was taken to Northampton General Hospital. The condition of the other two victims was unclear yesterday. Foot patrols in the area have been increased.

In East Sussex last night detectives were questioning a group of teenagers over the murder of a 40-year-old father of two who was beaten to death outside his home at the weekend.

Police in Hailsham said that this was not a random attack. They believe that the victim, whom neighbours named as Gary Rae, had been in dispute with up to six youths. One police source said that it was believed that he knew his attackers.

The victim was beaten to death but police were still searching a graveyard close to the scene for a weapon used in the attack. He was found bleeding and slumped at the back of a shop near to his home.

The main street in the market town remained sealed off as forensic teams continued their search.

Local families have complained that groups of youths have turned the high street of the town into a “no-go” area after dark. Martin Tillman, 55, a teaching assistant, said: “There are so many gangs of lads around of an evening and there is always vandalism taking place. It is a no-go area and people keep out of town.”

Mr Tillman said that the police presence was not high enough to deter rowdy gangs of youths from congregating in the town centre.

GANG VICTIMS

April 23 Mi Gao Huang Chen, a takeaway owner in Wigan, died after he was hit with metal pipes when confronted by 20 youths

April 30 Saad Ilhim Mohiuddin, 24, was attacked by a gang in the West End of London and left to die

May 14 Teenagers beat David Douglas, 25, to death with a plank of wood in Edinburgh

May 16 Phil Carroll suffered severe head injuries after confronting youths who threw a stone at his car in Salford

May 19 Alan Irwin, 72, was battered to death by two youths while walking home in High Wycombe

May 21 A policeman was beaten unconscious with an iron bar by a gang of youths in Leeds
 
#3
Biscuits_AB said:
C*nts. Little c*nts.
I was fuming when I heard about the teacher who snapped after months of intimidation by teenagers and fired a BB gun (or other replica thing) at the ground near one of them - and she got sent to prison and lost her job.

Those thugs are now laughing their arrses off - and the poor dears will probably sue the woman for trauma or something. Utter filth.
 
#5
Ah this lovely Socialist paradise in which we now live, human rights for all....oh apart from us who work and contribute to the state.........taking our pots of money from the treasury and pouring into a black hole called Africa........irrespective if it does go to some swiss bank account or build better, more equiped armies.......I could go on but my blood pressure is dangerously high
 
#6
MrPVRd said:
It's A Clockwork Orange 2005!

Two boys, aged 15 and 16, were arrested on suspicion of violent disorder on Saturday and were released on bail pending further inquiries.

Should still be in the nick not on the streets again...

The attack, in Dunston, Northamptonshire, prompted the senior investigating police officer to urge parents to take greater responsibility for their children.

The "Parents" should be in custody with the little sh1ts

In East Sussex last night detectives were questioning a group of teenagers over the murder of a 40-year-old father of two who was beaten to death outside his home at the weekend.

April 23 Mi Gao Huang Chen, a takeaway owner in Wigan, died after he was hit with metal pipes when confronted by 20 youths

April 30 Saad Ilhim Mohiuddin, 24, was attacked by a gang in the West End of London and left to die

May 14 Teenagers beat David Douglas, 25, to death with a plank of wood in Edinburgh

May 16 Phil Carroll suffered severe head injuries after confronting youths who threw a stone at his car in Salford

May 19 Alan Irwin, 72, was battered to death by two youths while walking home in High Wycombe

May 21 A policeman was beaten unconscious with an iron bar by a gang of youths in Leeds
This littany of assaults/murders is disgusting. I really think that Borstal and other "educational" establishments should be re-introduced and the public birchings for slightly less physical crimes. If the miscrient is under say 14, then the "parents/guardians" should be behind bars along with the little sh 1 ts

Thank the gods that I don't nor will ever have fcuking kids.

JJ
 
#7
Vigilante groups, armoured land rovers, black nomex suits, scary helmets, batons. Break some of the little $hits, and scare the rest into spending their time playing chess and crocheting tea-cosies.
Our pi$$-weak government only defends 'rights' and impresses no responsibility - the problem will only get worse.
 
#8
Bring back the birch for both "The little c**ts" and the "big c**ts" ie the parents for letting them loose.Stop this country blaming the teachers,television,computer games and any other crappy excuse and sort out the root cause,lack of respect and poor upbringing,
 
#9
sarnian said:
Vigilante groups, armoured land rovers, black nomex suits, scary helmets, batons. Break some of the little $hits, and scare the rest into spending their time playing chess and crocheting tea-cosies.
Our pi$$-weak government only defends 'rights' and impresses no responsibility - the problem will only get worse.
good idea!!!!!!
 
#11
Bliar's thought-police would, no doubt put all effort into nailing such a band of patriots, leaving the little shites to continue their hobby. As the schoolteacher/airgun case showed. 'All faith should be put into the judicial system for resolving crimes' - where the individual has now, by his own silly voting, surrendered the very right to self defence. Makes me foam at the mouth, but an electorate tends to get the government it deserves.

On the other hand, perhaps a P.O box couldnt hurt...
 
#12
Vigilante groups, armoured land rovers, black nomex suits, scary helmets, batons. Break some of the little $hits, and scare the rest into spending their time playing chess and crocheting tea-cosies.
In my more misanthropic moments, I have considered the feasibility of petrol-bombing large and intimidating gangs of youths.

Points in favour:

1. These weapons can be employed for shock value without causing significant risk to life, if thrown at an appropriate spot (ie downwind and not close enough to splash).

2. The evidence will largely destroy itself.

3. Everyone has bottles and most people have access to petrol.

4. If a Buckfast bottle is employed and the grenadier is appropriately garbed (disposable "hoodie") then another gang will be blamed.

5. It will scare the living daylights out of anyone on the receiving end!

Points against:

1. It is really not the sort of thing I would want to do.

2. If the police got wind that it was the action of a "concerned citizen" rather than a local thug, then no effort would be spared to find the culprit. Conversely, if it was suspected to be the work of a thug, then the cops would't give a t0ss!

3. If caught, the sanctions could be severe and a policy of non-co-operation and evidence destruction might not prove sufficient.

The verdict: A weapon of last resort, if life is really being made miserable and dangerous.
 
#13
I feel that a policy of cutting one of the fingers off the culprits after each offence would have the desired effect I mean they would only have to commit ten crimes before wan*king became a little difficult
 
#14
My Old father recently had a problem with a group of Yobs hanging around his house - they were not actually hurting anybody but they were noisy andd used alot of bad language. some of my Dad's elderly neighbours found them intimidating.

My father is 70 years old. he picked up his stick and casually strolled over to the group. there were seven in all aged around 15-18. He politely asked them to "move on as they were causing some of the old ladies to be worried."

the ring leader - a right gob sh1te told him to fcuk off. Within a few minutes more than a few of them had bloody noses from my father's stout stick. six of them managed to leg it but one, a fat little cnut, couldn't quite get out of reach fast enough. My dad was still beating his head against a drainpipe when the police arrived. The yobs had called them as they were scared their mate was going to be killed.

the Policemen were a credit. no action was taken against my Dad. 70 years without being in trouble before he could hardly be branded a trouble maker. The police actually wanted to charge the yobs but after taking statements from my dad and the neighbours who were watching out of the window and talking to a senior officer it was decided that there wasn't anything to charge them with and that the beating they had got would have to be punishment again.

My father while out walking has had abuse shouted at him by the parents of these yobs and been called "a bully" but when he crosses the street to confront them they soon scurry off and shut the fcuk up.

a demonstation that there is but one way to deal with this kind of behaviour. A show of strength. These yobs take advantage that they hang around in groups. As Individuals they have no personal courage. they thought my father, an elderly man was an easy target.

The police need to get tough on these scumbags. the government need to get tough on these scumbags but this is not enough. Too many people are indoctrinated to be victims. Ok you might get a few windows broken but where do you draw the line. The breakdown of cmmunity is the root of this problem.

When we were kids this didn't happen because everybody new who we were, where we lived and that old Lairdx's dad would give him a right hiding if they told him what lairdx had been up to. we were forever in and out of everybody elses gardens.

Some communities people don't even say hello to their next door neighbours anymore. When a community pulls together and looks out for one another a show of strength can be mustered and the scumbags will get the message. Instead what happens is one person tries to stand up for themselves and becomes the main target.

Perhaps the best way to solve this problem would be to chop the chavs dicks off and sterilise female chavs. Eventually removing an unwanted element from society. saving a fortune in benefits payments.

The other option I can see is to give a householder the right to use deadly force when defending his home/family. How many chavs would break into someones house to beat them up a second time if they'd recieved a garden fork up the arrse on the first occasion?
 
#15
Excellent post!

I think if you act like a victim, you will end up a victim.

Fighting back has risks - the risk of being harmed or being arrested and charged.

The physical risk can be mitigated by using overwhelming force - like a walking stick!

This increases the risk of being "done" by a disinterested and number-chasing prosecution system.

But life isn't risk free! :twisted:
 
#16
My concern for your father Lairdx is that the little fcukers will come back when its dark and take a course of action none of us would want to see.

I truly hope he ends up OK.

Anyone know where machine pistols can be purchased? Until this sort of behaviour is stamped out viciously (and I really do mean viciously) then it will continue.

We have entered a society where I really do not want to be a part of it anymore.
 
#17
These little arrse-wipes make my blood boil. I have a simple philosophy if I'm ever confronted by a group of these fcuckers - they think they can take me, I know I can take one or more of them. Tell them the odds,
"I'm probably going down - but by fcuck so will two or three of you tw@ts... so who's it to be then?" (then hope to fcuk some old biddy phones for the Bill!!)
 
#18
A little advice,

I work in an area where, for the most part, these little tosspots run the place. and if not them, then 'yardie' gangs - or 'men of violence' as they are now known (it's less race - specific apparantly) run the place, and if they're not the ones making a decent person's life a misery, then it'll be the local travellers, who, strangely for people called travellers, seem to mostly stay in one place :?

But!

If the law is enforced with vigour, and proper means to track these people down (even in the face of accusations of cultural insensitivity, and the obligatory shouts of 'Racism')

Then we can reduce their ability to terrorise and intimidate with impunity.

and it's no use saying 'it's the police chief's fault' when any senior officer who wasn't entirely on message, or challenged this, could easily be moved on by higher formation!

Those ASBOs work a treat if they're enforced.
 
#19
Caravans burn. To move people, whether they are chavs, gypsies, yardies or any dross you care to name, you have to make it undesirable for them to remain where they are. Because these people choose to live like they do, and by their nature are unpleasant, this means making it unsafe.
"reducing their ability to terrorise and intimidate" is all very well, but it needs to be stopped, and an example should be set.
If these scum can wangle their way out of working/steal our tax money/pollute our land with illegal camps, then they can learn quickly enough when something can be disastrous to their health. I stick with the vigilante idea.
 
#20
At the risk of sounding a bleeding-heart museli-eating leftie, a bit of carrot is needed as well as the stout stick.

There tends to be little for the young rapscallions to do. In the "good old days" we would climb trees, play football and channel our excess energies into harmless pursuits. That was before the days of hyperactivity-inducing vile drinks!

Nowadays, the modern tearaway is likely to have no trees to climb because he/she lives in an urban sprawl and nowhere to play football because the council (with a few million surplus in the coffers) has flogged the land for houses.

So a bottom-up approach might bear some fruit. Lobby the councillor for a football pitch. If you are a parent, start a youth club. Scrutinise urban sprawl type proposals put forward by the council to see if they include play facilities for kids.

The inspiration for this post was the young scoundrel who decorated my house with an egg one day and was recently bought a bike. He now rides happily up and down all day long.
 

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