Police to fingerprint on streets

#2
I expect I am an enemy of the state because I am a white, christian, ex-military, free-thinking (charges apply in some zones though, after 11 p.m.), married, property owning, hunting, non-apparatchik male. Oh, white naturally.

However I always wear synthetic fingerprints when out and advise all of you to do the same. A bas les bliars!
 
#4
Cholmondley-Warner said:
Cuddles said:
because I am a white, ........ Oh, white naturally.
Cuddles - do two whites make a Wong? In which case your perceived ethnicity may be in doubt...
Ah-so, so solly...
 
#5
Cuddles said:
I expect I am an enemy of the state because I am a white, christian, ex-military, free-thinking (charges apply in some zones though, after 11 p.m.), married, property owning, hunting, non-apparatchik male. Oh, white naturally.
And ginger..... :D
 
#6
Ginger, (sigh) yes....I'll come quietly. Which makes a change...
 
#7
I see it can only be used with suspects permission. I wonder how often you would be offered the option to decline?
On the other hand if nobody has to give a print isn't it pretty worthless? If you are wanted by the law you can simply refuse, or is that a sign of guilt and grounds for your arrest these days?
 
#8
If you think that is bad, a lot of primary schools (yes, primary schools) are fingerprinting kids to keep track of where the books are going.

One of the scariest developments in a long time methinks.
 
#11
jagman said:
I see it can only be used with suspects permission. I wonder how often you would be offered the option to decline?
On the other hand if nobody has to give a print isn't it pretty worthless? If you are wanted by the law you can simply refuse, or is that a sign of guilt and grounds for your arrest these days?
In a number of situations the plod can require you to go to the police station to confirm your identity, the idea is that using this they can at least check you are not some one they are actually interested in and thus perhaps more likely to be who yopu say you are.

Of course when we all have ID cards.....................

Peter
 
#12
I will be saying a firm NO to any plod that asks me for my fingerprints.

Look what happened when they took DNA samples that where meant to be temporary. They forgot to dispose of them until a law was changed to allow them to keep them indefinitely :roll:

They'll only get one finger from me!
 
#13
Agent_Smith said:
I will be saying a firm NO to any plod that asks me for my fingerprints.

Look what happened when they took DNA samples that where meant to be temporary. They forgot to dispose of them until a law was changed to allow them to keep them indefinitely :roll:

They'll only get one finger from me!
As things stand that of course will be your priviledge, as will the trip to the cop shop for further checks to be made. The choice for the time being will be entirely yours.
 
#14
If someone told us 20 years ago that there would be ID cards, 500,000 CCTV camera's, taking your shoes off to get on the plane, widespread DNA scanning and street-level biometric scanning, you would think it was some orwellian nightmare.

I genuinely dont mind when we have a benign state, but how long will that last? What happens next time we have a miners strike, antiwar protests or poll-tax protests? I am not an anti-govt protester type in particular, but in the future I would like to have the option without having to worry about being tracked in my car (for charging), or being tracked through my credit card usage or mobile phone trace.

Nothing to worry about now, but god help us if a more sinister regime comes to power. The thing is I dont feel safer or more protected with all these things in place....

Ratcatcher
 
#15
"can i use the fingerprints of the severed hand in my glove box, officer?"
 
#16
Ratcatcher said:
If someone told us 20 years ago that there would be ID cards, 500,000 CCTV camera's, taking your shoes off to get on the plane, widespread DNA scanning and street-level biometric scanning, you would think it was some orwellian nightmare.

I genuinely dont mind when we have a benign state, but how long will that last? What happens next time we have a miners strike, antiwar protests or poll-tax protests? I am not an anti-govt protester type in particular, but in the future I would like to have the option without having to worry about being tracked in my car (for charging), or being tracked through my credit card usage or mobile phone trace.

Nothing to worry about now, but god help us if a more sinister regime comes to power. The thing is I dont feel safer or more protected with all these things in place....

Ratcatcher
The present one is sinister enough thank you!
 
#17
Awol said:
If you think that is bad, a lot of primary schools (yes, primary schools) are fingerprinting kids to keep track of where the books are going.

One of the scariest developments in a long time methinks.
I worked on a similar scheme at Secondary Schools, for automated class registration. The system only saved a binary code which could not be deconstructed back into a finger print. However we were asked by the police if the initial scan of the finger print could be keep on file in a database for them!!(this could be used instead) We said "no", but it would only take 3 lines of code to do it!!! so if the government forced the issue it could be done and their database of fingerprints would start at 11 year olds!! I no longer work for that company so have no idea if bLiars government is putting pressure on or not.
 
#18
What happens to my finger print after the police have scanned it - when they establish that I am a harmless old codger with no outstanding warrants?

Will my fingerprint be retained in the police database, like my DNA would be if I was swabbed, even though I've comitted no crime?

Presumably they keep some record of stopping me. Will they keep my print too?
 
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#19
Well, I think that it's a damned good idea. If you've done nowt, you've nowt to worry about. If they do end up keeping them, then that's even better.

John Prescott
 
#20
Think the idea of being able to check the identity of a suspect via finger printings is an excellent idea. Identity theft is on the rise and all of that.
If you deny the police a finger scan and have nothing to hide (committed no crime) whould you be done for wasting police time?

Will the NHS be employing this system to check if you have to pay for health care, cough, like American health tourists.

Will this be employed at the dole office?

Will it be used by IND is catch illegal immagrants?

The use of biometric's to confirm some ones identity is great, just as long as the systems that he data is held on is secure and is not open to abuse. I think that this government will abuse those systems.
 

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