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Police officer tried to hang himself from lamp-post' outside force HQ.

My stepson has just announced he's considering joining the police after he finishes college.

Im going to show him this thread.

I think that would be a wise thing to do. Even now after many years I still find it mentally painful to discuss these things, so don't. Over the years, two of my colleagues ( and friends) topped themselves. One by firing himself with petrol as he had been on desk duty for about four years and they decided to put him back out into an unpleasant area and on a response team at the age of 50 years.

I need to emphasise that these were strong, tough, decent characters. An earlier poster implied it was a build up over years of pressure and maybe frustration that does it with a final thing that causes the snap. I can only concur.

That was a long time ago. If anything, things seem far worse now. If your boy has the ability to do anything else, he should do that instead. Just my opinion.
 
I've transferred out of the MET in the last few months to another force.

This job one involves a lot of trains.

The grass is not greener at all, just different situations and a more select collection of crimes to deal with.

85% of My new colleagues are less than 3 years service or probationers and few are anticipating being in the job for much longer. They are heavily loaded with investigations to try and work through, but also under immense pressure to be physically out walking the network ( like the paymasters are actually paying for )and until a new emergency restructure, were spending months if not YEARS working alone on shifts.

####### SPOILER ######

##### Nikki, do not read the next paragraph####

Thats for the wife who likes reading ARRSE.

A few weeks ago, in a dark tunnel, lit by flashlights, I was picking up the scattered spinal column and skull,brain and assorted bits of a chap who failed to outrun a train and putting him into a small selection of yellow bio-bags.As I was walking out to get my boots steam cleaned,I was informed by a well dressed city chap that he was being delayed yet again and as a shareholder he was f##king disgusted that the police were doing bugger all apart from milling about and shutting stations at random. The most thanks I received in months to be honest.

I would suggest that no-person should even think about applying to join the police until they do a substantial amount of research about the impact on your family life, social, the unavoidable changes to your mental health and the constantly topping up to the meter that regards the general public as an alien species Ideally to go out on a patrol as a member of the public ( most forces will do this ) just to experience the utter hatred and malice from even normal people whom have been told to try and behave like a normal human being ( at least until they leave the station )
 
Part of the problem here in the US is that all officers carry guns and some decide to eat the gun. Officers with mental or substance abuse issues have guns removed and can only work in a police station filing forms etc.

Part of the problem is that once upon a time officers regarded themselves as a band of brothers and tried to support their brothers. Now the superiors seem to worry about meeting productivity guidelines and ensuring all is politically correct. I recall a friend who was discouraged with work. He had had a very busy week with 4 felony arrests including rapist and a bank robber on the most wanted list. The police chief called him into his office and my friend expected to hear "Great Work Jimmy, the department is proud of you" Instead the chief had noticed that he had only written one traffic ticket that week and his productivity was declining.

I did hear that on your side of the pond, as a terrorist was stabbing a constable to death outside Parliament that the Deputy Commissioner was 5 yards away and responded by locking the car doors and ordering his driver to leave rapidly. Brother?? Brother my are!! That deputy is a disgrace to the uniform in my book.
This like this would tend to get to the officers.

Here in NI I knew two people, One RUC and One UDR, who killed themselves with with their PPWs.
 
I've transferred out of the MET in the last few months to another force.

This job one involves a lot of trains.

The grass is not greener at all, just different situations and a more select collection of crimes to deal with.

85% of My new colleagues are less than 3 years service or probationers and few are anticipating being in the job for much longer. They are heavily loaded with investigations to try and work through, but also under immense pressure to be physically out walking the network ( like the paymasters are actually paying for )and until a new emergency restructure, were spending months if not YEARS working alone on shifts.

####### SPOILER ######

##### Nikki, do not read the next paragraph####

Thats for the wife who likes reading ARRSE.

A few weeks ago, in a dark tunnel, lit by flashlights, I was picking up the scattered spinal column and skull,brain and assorted bits of a chap who failed to outrun a train and putting him into a small selection of yellow bio-bags.As I was walking out to get my boots steam cleaned,I was informed by a well dressed city chap that he was being delayed yet again and as a shareholder he was f##king disgusted that the police were doing bugger all apart from milling about and shutting stations at random. The most thanks I received in months to be honest.

I would suggest that no-person should even think about applying to join the police until they do a substantial amount of research about the impact on your family life, social, the unavoidable changes to your mental health and the constantly topping up to the meter that regards the general public as an alien species Ideally to go out on a patrol as a member of the public ( most forces will do this ) just to experience the utter hatred and malice from even normal people whom have been told to try and behave like a normal human being ( at least until they leave the station )

NODUFF I have nothing but admiration for your self-control.
 
NODUFF I have nothing but admiration for your self-control.

Unfortunately you can have self control for decades in the face of extreme provocation and then make one mistake or crack under pressure and respond incorrectly and you will be shafted.
You might be prosecuted, if that fails then the discipline route will be followed with your career raked over to find something or other if they can’t get you for the initial thing.
You will then be sacked, placed on a public discipline register and have to explain that every time you apply for a job.
 
Couple the shit job prospects & lack of management support when needed, when, as DS with a few years under your belt & an A level education, you can get yourself into a mid-level management role in the private sector for the same money if not more. Steady hours, good packages. Whats not to like?
Cousin of mine did 25 years with Merseyside left as a DS & now works as a consultant for a specialist recruitment coy, chasing serving & recent ex-blokes & lasses for roles in the security sector. The relatively recent crowded places initiative by the govt got the larger private sector companies into a risk averse tail spin for some reason so roles opened up in a lot of places.
 
I've transferred out of the MET in the last few months to another force.

This job one involves a lot of trains.

The grass is not greener at all, just different situations and a more select collection of crimes to deal with.

85% of My new colleagues are less than 3 years service or probationers and few are anticipating being in the job for much longer. They are heavily loaded with investigations to try and work through, but also under immense pressure to be physically out walking the network ( like the paymasters are actually paying for )and until a new emergency restructure, were spending months if not YEARS working alone on shifts.

####### SPOILER ######

##### Nikki, do not read the next paragraph####

Thats for the wife who likes reading ARRSE.

A few weeks ago, in a dark tunnel, lit by flashlights, I was picking up the scattered spinal column and skull,brain and assorted bits of a chap who failed to outrun a train and putting him into a small selection of yellow bio-bags.As I was walking out to get my boots steam cleaned,I was informed by a well dressed city chap that he was being delayed yet again and as a shareholder he was f##king disgusted that the police were doing bugger all apart from milling about and shutting stations at random. The most thanks I received in months to be honest.

I would suggest that no-person should even think about applying to join the police until they do a substantial amount of research about the impact on your family life, social, the unavoidable changes to your mental health and the constantly topping up to the meter that regards the general public as an alien species Ideally to go out on a patrol as a member of the public ( most forces will do this ) just to experience the utter hatred and malice from even normal people whom have been told to try and behave like a normal human being ( at least until they leave the station )

Why didn't you open the bag and invite him to look inside ?
He might have been reassured his money was well spent.
 
Good buddy of mine, has been in the force around a decade.....she is under a lot of pressure and unfortunately fallen into some of the aforementioned drawbacks of the profession. And yes I believe she has been signed off for stress etc. Safe to say she has no support at work and around the time of her parents funeral recently the only comunique from the inspector was a stern warning reminding her that she could be on thin ice if she doesnt ace the annual PT test .

If that is not the case I heard from one of her relatives (former firefighter) that he and his colleagues attended major RTA on some road. Only for the incident commanders (both police inspectors) bickering between themselves about who was in charge/ petty swearing at each other thus holding up the response to cut folk free, (thankfully no one had died)

Cheers
 
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Good buddy of mine, has been in the force around a decade.....she is under a lot of pressure and unfortunately fallen into some of the aforementioned drawbacks. And yes I believe she has been signed off for stress etc. Safe to say she has no support at work and around the time of her parents funeral recently the only comunique from the inspector was a stern warning reminding her that she could be on thin ice if she doesnt ace the annual PT test ,
Cheers

Support networks - be it at work or personal, are the key to staying sane. Unfortunately, due to various circumstances not always possible. I am a good example.
 
I wish she had one, or maybe rest of her colleagues are in the same boat and gone introverted and cannot reach out so isolated.

She has had the undule pleasure of experiencing BaldBabboon' picking up the pieces / encountering ungrateful public....oh and if theres any counselling support , she and her colleagues be lucky to get any...or not.

The public are not that grateful nor supportive ...laughingly from my experience in the helicopter industry, I attended launch of new air ambulance years back. One lady muck, with riding gear (yes boots and all) attended and seemed to hang onto the sernior fundraising folk/senior execs ...she said in plummy voice "oh I am glad our police helicopter has gone it was sooooo loud" in reference to NPAS shake up with the county losing its MD902 Explorer. I had to hold my laughter back as my first thoughts were 'wtf you doing at a helicopter event when you dont even like them?? Also you wouldnt bemoaning if your 'mansion or stables' broken into/one of your lvoed ones went missing and the force used helicopter to assist'.

Cheers
 
The Aussie police aren't doing well either...and again in the same spot in a 6weeks span.

An experienced Australian Federal Police officer appears to have taken her own life on Sunday at the force's headquarters in Canberra, the fourth member of the force to do so at work in two years.

A male AFP officer apparently took his own life in the same building six weeks ago. And two other members took their own lives at the Melbourne office last year.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/...-the-fourth-in-two-years-20181209-p50l6z.html
 
I wish she had one, or maybe rest of her colleagues are in the same boat and gone introverted and cannot reach out so isolated.

She has had the undule pleasure of experiencing BaldBabboon' picking up the pieces / encountering ungrateful public....oh and if theres any counselling support , she and her colleagues be lucky to get any...or not.

The public are not that grateful nor supportive ...laughingly from my experience in the helicopter industry, I attended launch of new air ambulance years back. One lady muck, with riding gear (yes boots and all) attended and seemed to hang onto the sernior fundraising folk/senior execs ...she said in plummy voice "oh I am glad our police helicopter has gone it was sooooo loud" in reference to NPAS shake up with the county losing its MD902 Explorer. I had to hold my laughter back as my first thoughts were 'wtf you doing at a helicopter event when you dont even like them?? Also you wouldnt bemoaning if your 'mansion or stables' broken into/one of your lvoed ones went missing and the force used helicopter to assist'.

Cheers

Shame you never had the balls to tell her to her face.
 
Shame you never had the balls to tell her to her face.

BB

There were half a dozen VIP plus AA personnel / fundraisers stood next to me...when she said what she said. Lot of raised eyebrows and rolled eyeballs ..

I did point out the role of police helicopter to her but ended up talking to myself as she just wandered off with the ‘Smiths and ‘ Jones..

Cheers
 
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