Police gone soft?

Since when do nurses PRESCRIBE drugs, they administer what the doctor prescribes!!

I didn't say they did, (although some can after advanced training) however I can see that I was vague.

A Dr will prescribe X amount of a drug over time Z In some cases that will require the nurse to do various drug calculations to work out, say, how much to dilute drugs down or flow rate settings to use to administer that prescribed dose. IF they cock them up and/or set up the delivery machine wrong you will end up with an over/under dose.
 
It's one for the "Things you see all the time in movies and TV" thread, but you often see some petite 5' lass giving it max with the jap-slapping and throwing around the 6'5" built like a brick outhouse goon like he was a feather.

Except, if you watch closely, you see that there is very little force that the lass can exert and if it were a real fight, the goon would've shrugged off half the blows then ripped her head off like a jam jar lid.
There is a well traveled video which has been posted several times on this site where a US army female apparently made a boast about being able to beat any of the men present in a fight (IIRC they were on deployment somewhere) and a gallant US marine accepted the challenge, which played out in a boxing ring with predictable results.
 

enpointe

Old-Salt
FFS these wusses need a good kick up the rear, are they so stupid or more likely "woke" if they are ex university type, who are recruited as "officers" and have never watched one of the numerous police reality tv programmes.
Get back to the good old days when tall well built MEN were recruited not weedy wusses who a gust of wind would blow over. No wonder the yobs & serious criminals are prospering. It might account for the surge in gun & knife crime experienced in most of our heavily "enriched" towns & cities!!

this is talking about Constable entry , all sworn Police are 'Officers' because they hold an Office , the Office of Constable
 
It's one for the "Things you see all the time in movies and TV" thread, but you often see some petite 5' lass giving it max with the jap-slapping and throwing around the 6'5" built like a brick outhouse goon like he was a feather.

Except, if you watch closely, you see that there is very little force that the lass can exert and if it were a real fight, the goon would've shrugged off half the blows then ripped her head off like a jam jar lid.

I've seen quite a few young lads who'd done some kickboxing etc. try it on with genuinely capable men after a few drinks. It always ended badly for them. Gobby young 'martial artists' getting introduced to the pavement by middle aged bouncers seemed to be a right of passage.

I've heard that something similar is starting to happen with young women. They confuse a few months on the mats with genuine capability and start fights with blokes. The results are predictable.
 

enpointe

Old-Salt
Since when do nurses PRESCRIBE drugs, they administer what the doctor prescribes!!

Since Prescribing Qualifications for Health Professionals who aren't Doctors or Dentists came about, only a couple of decades ago...

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it's 15 years since the full BNF was opened up to Nurse Prescribers rather than restricted formularies


along with Patient Group Directions which are effective prescriptive authority as well.

you really aren't covering yourself in glory in terms of basic knowledge in this topic are you ,nor it seems with basic grammatical Knowledge
 

enpointe

Old-Salt
shame the actual evidence says otherwise ref Degrees and Nursing
such as this


and this


see links contained in the pieces for the underpinning academic papers deomonstrating 7 % decrease in mortality when 10 % more RNs had degrees in a clinical area
 
I've seen quite a few young lads who'd done some kickboxing etc. try it on with genuinely capable men after a few drinks. It always ended badly for them. Gobby young 'martial artists' getting introduced to the pavement by middle aged bouncers seemed to be a right of passage.

I've heard that something similar is starting to happen with young women. They confuse a few months on the mats with genuine capability and start fights with blokes. The results are predictable.

It can happen to Squaddies as well. ;)

In his book, Watch My Back, Geoff Thompson, who spent ten years working doors in Coventry, recounts how he was jumped by five drunken soldiers during a particularly nasty scrap. Thompson carried a set of brass knuckles for extreme situations like that. He slipped them on and, in his own words,

"Hit everything that moved, until the five soldiers were all lying on the ground, bleeding from head wounds".

Police duly arrived and lifted everybody. Thompson had by that time ditched the knuckle dusters and swore blind to the investigating officers that he had defended himself without using any type of offensive weapon. The squaddies, all nursing very sore heads, were understandably not amused. One of them complained loudly to a police desk sergeant that he had fought in the Falklands and deserved better treatment than this. To which the desk sergeant, not even looking up from his paperwork, replied,

"You might have beaten the Argies, son, but you got fooked in Coventry". :)
 
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It can happen to Squaddies as well. ;)

In his book, Watch My Back, Geoff Thompson, who spent ten years working doors in Coventry, recounts how he was jumped by five drunken soldiers during a particularly nasty scrap. Thompson carried a set of brass knuckles for extreme situations like that. He slipped them on and, in his own words,

"Hit everything that moved, until the five soldiers were all lying on the ground, bleeding from head wounds".

Police duly arrived and lifted everybody. Thompson had by that time ditched the knuckle dusters and swore blind to the investigating officers that he had defended himself without using any type of offensive weapon. The squaddies, all nursing very sore heads, were understandably not amused. One of them complained loudly to a police desk sergeant that he had fought in the Falklands and deserved better treatment than this. To which the desk sergeant, not even looking up from his paperwork, replied,

"You might have beaten the Argies, son, but you got fcuked in Coventry". :)

I saw someone get hit in the face with a set of brass knuckles. To describe the result as 'catastrophic' would be an understatement.

I wonder if the esteemed Mr. Thompson may have exaggerated slightly:

"Hit everything that moved, until the five soldiers were all lying on the ground, bleeding from head wounds".

If you punch 5 people in the head with knuckle dusters most of them will require at least a night in hospital (if only for observation). If you don't kill or cripple at least one of them, it will be down to luck rather than judgement.
 
I saw someone get hit in the face with a set of brass knuckles. To describe the result as 'catastrophic' would be an understatement.

I wonder if the esteemed Mr. Thompson may have exaggerated slightly:

"Hit everything that moved, until the five soldiers were all lying on the ground, bleeding from head wounds".

If you punch 5 people in the head with knuckle dusters most of them will require at least a night in hospital (if only for observation). If you don't kill or cripple at least one of them, it will be down to luck rather than judgement.

IIRC, Thompson himself was shocked by the aftermath. He also admitted he was extremely lucky not to go down for GBH; the incident had taken place in a CCTV blind spot and his colleagues among the door staff had backed up his story(lying through their teeth). As soon as the fight was over, Thompson dropped the dusters into the handbag of a female friend, and she left the scene before coppers arrived.

Thompson said he never carried knuckle dusters after that incident. The potential consequences were just too serious.
 
IIRC, Thompson himself was shocked by the aftermath. He also admitted he was extremely lucky not to go down for GBH; the incident had taken place in a CCTV blind spot and his colleagues among the door staff had backed up his story(lying through their teeth). As soon as the fight was over, Thompson dropped the dusters into the handbag of a female friend, and she left the scene before coppers arrived.

Thompson said he never carried knuckle dusters after that incident. The potential consequences were just too serious.

I think Mr. Thompson is an astute man who discovered an effective formula for selling books to teenage boys and would-be martial artists.

I'm sure he paid his dues as a bouncer, and was a capable man in his prime, but he is also a bit of a fibber.
 
I think Mr. Thompson is an astute man who discovered an effective formula for selling books to teenage boys and would-be martial artists.

I'm sure he paid his dues as a bouncer, and was a capable man in his prime, but he is also a bit of a fibber.

I trained with him once, and I know others, who's opinion I greatly respect, who speak very highly of him. He probably did embellish his stories, but let's face it, he's hardly unique in that regard. And that includes any number of ex-soldiers who have made a very comfortable living off War Porn. ;)
 
I think Mr. Thompson is an astute man who discovered an effective formula for selling books to teenage boys and would-be martial artists.

I'm sure he paid his dues as a bouncer, and was a capable man in his prime, but he is also a bit of a fibber.
A vet tells Fibs. Never. :p
 
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This guy is identified as an off duty copper.

It appears that he didn’t get the memo about being touchy freely with crims. Or maybe he just misinterpreted it.

 
This guy is identified as an off duty copper.

It appears that he didn’t get the memo about being touchy freely with crims. Or maybe he just misinterpreted it.


Class!

That's made my day, and it's only 00:14!.
 
There is a well traveled video which has been posted several times on this site where a US army female apparently made a boast about being able to beat any of the men present in a fight (IIRC they were on deployment somewhere) and a gallant US marine accepted the challenge, which played out in a boxing ring with predictable results.
I once dated a very petite (I am 6’1 and take a 48 jacket - she was 4’11.5”. That .5 was very important to her for some reason) lass from Hereford. She was VERY good at Tae Kwon-do - despite it not being the most practical of the martial arts she could kick ass. I am not a neophyte to the fighting arts but she not only slapped me silly but was able to pick me up and throw me down.

At a BBQ where the boyfriend of one of her mates was one of ‘Them’ she had a very friendly fight - she held her own very well.

It is not just about your weight, height and build - but doctrine, training and competence. And your knowledge of your limitations and how to take advantage of those of your enemy.
 
This guy is identified as an off duty copper.

It appears that he didn’t get the memo about being touchy freely with crims. Or maybe he just misinterpreted it.

It looks like he was on duty working in plain clothes as opposed to being off duty. While not a Home Office approved Officer Safety Training move, it would be fully justified if the scrote pulled a knife on him.
 
This guy is identified as an off duty copper.

It appears that he didn’t get the memo about being touchy freely with crims. Or maybe he just misinterpreted it.

At first I thought I knew the officer concerned. A Jock called Jimmy from Glasgow. But looking at it again, the officer in the video is far too tall and good looking to be him.
 

RaiderBoat

War Hero
I think Mr. Thompson is an astute man who discovered an effective formula for selling books to teenage boys and would-be martial artists.

I'm sure he paid his dues as a bouncer, and was a capable man in his prime, but he is also a bit of a fibber.
Standard Cop 101 would be to examine his knuckles to see if he had been in a fight…

Shitty Plod work then.
 
I once dated a very petite (I am 6’1 and take a 48 jacket - she was 4’11.5”. That .5 was very important to her for some reason) lass from Hereford. She was VERY good at Tae Kwon-do - despite it not being the most practical of the martial arts she could kick ass. I am not a neophyte to the fighting arts but she not only slapped me silly but was able to pick me up and throw me down.

At a BBQ where the boyfriend of one of her mates was one of ‘Them’ she had a very friendly fight - she held her own very well.

It is not just about your weight, height and build - but doctrine, training and competence. And your knowledge of your limitations and how to take advantage of those of your enemy.
I dabbled in three different forms of martial arts in my youth and I too have seen some formidable women. You’ve pretty much nailed it with the last sentence and the best self defence advice remains; if you can avoid or evade a fight then do so.
 

Joshua Slocum

LE
Book Reviewer
This guy is identified as an off duty copper.

It appears that he didn’t get the memo about being touchy freely with crims. Or maybe he just misinterpreted it.

Look at me I am strong!!!
Crack
Legend
Nice style no messing
 

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