Police gone soft?

'Officer with no understanding of the wider tactical situation than what was directly in his line of vision, and has no training in public order command, situational awareness and decision making, gobs off...'
 
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3% for NHS
1.5% for Fire
0.000% for Police

that is nothing. No pay rise this year. Odd that the workforce that has the right to strike gets a pay rise. Police Fed can do very little.

There is a new “independent working group” scrutinising Stop and Search and we get “inputs” on using our powers ethically on a weekly basis. To be honest, unless I’ve seen the knife or watched them buy the drugs I’m probably not going to bother. It’s not worth the hassle.
F all for the Prison Service as well.
No right to strike either.
 
Shame, I had a right hangover at Wembley once, a WC qualifier V Poland I think, luckily the skipper took one look at me and put me on the family enclosure a great seat, hat off sat down with a bottle of water, nursing a head which cleared up by half time.
Turned out to be a nice day, I think England won as well and the kids were very well behaved:slow:
Very professional!
 

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3% for NHS
1.5% for Fire
0.000% for Police

that is nothing. No pay rise this year. Odd that the workforce that has the right to strike gets a pay rise. Police Fed can do very little.

There is a new “independent working group” scrutinising Stop and Search and we get “inputs” on using our powers ethically on a weekly basis. To be honest, unless I’ve seen the knife or watched them buy the drugs I’m probably not going to bother. It’s not worth the hassle.
Feck em, bastards, they should remember it was the police who had to enforce the laws the government were making up on the hoof, putting their lives at risk from Covid when most other people were at home, and this is the thanks you get.
On top of all that you had the usual crime going on, maybe not the usual pub and drink problems but I bet the domestics went up, and this is the thanks you get
As I say, feck em, do the minimum and good luck.
Conservatives just as bad as Labour if not worse when it comes to the police.
 
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Feck em, bastards, the6 should remrber it was the police who had to enforce the laws the government were making up on the hoof, putting their lives at risk from Covid when most other people were at home, and this is the thanks you get.
As I say, feck em, do the minimum and good luck.
The Police doing there jobs? Like the NHS? Wanting more money just because they had to work when society shut down? Scandalous,
 

Gout Man

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F all for the Prison Service as well.
No right to strike either.
And you have the responsibilities of looking after societies scum. This government know how to feck off the backbone of law and order.
Now is the time for Dick and the Ch Constables to stand up and speak out and bloody demand that you and the police are treated the same as NHS workers.
I thought they saved a few Bob on foreign aid? Saying that it appears they should spend that on the navy and get more boats out in the English Channel and escort these bloody migrants back to French waters instead of having them escorted to these shores.
That’s where your pay rise money is going, looking after these bloody illegal immigrants that we were promised would stop coming here and yet nothing seems to be done about them!
 
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And you have the responsibilities of looking after societies scum. This government know how to feck off the backbone of law and order.
Now is the time for Dick and the Ch Constables to stand up and speak out and bloody demand that you and the police are treated the same as NHS workers.
I thought they saved a few Bob on foreign aid? Saying that it appears they should spend that on the navy and get more boats out in the English Channel and escort these bloody migrants back to French waters instead of having them escorted to these shores.
That’s where your pay rise money is going, looking after these bloody illegal immigrants that we were promised would stop coming here and yet nothing seems to be done about them!
It’s also going to the free health care for everyone in this country, overweight, smoke, don’t exercise? Don’t worry the government will pay for expensive procedures and medicine to fix you.
 
The Police doing there jobs? Like the NHS? Wanting more money just because they had to work when society shut down? Scandalous,

Why did soldiers need a tour bonus to go to Afghan, just to do the job they are trained to do? I thought that was what the wage they were paid was for.

It was never needed in the past.
 
Did you have the pleasure of a tour of Iraq or Afgan?
Does it matter? Bloke my dad worked with was in the Army for 2 years. Korea. length of service and tours don't matter. you went where you were sent. Some folk did 22 years holding back 3SA - I think no less of them than I do of those who have done other things since.

ETA and it bugs the sh1t out of me when you refer to the country as 'Afghan'. Afghan is an adjective. The country is called Afghanistan - we should do them the courtesy of using the name in full.
 
@wetsmonkey imagine if your force in replaced by a force 10x larger claiming you were reluctant to conduct operations, this comes down through the chain of command, so for example let’s put the workforce of the MET in Cumbria, nothing really changes apart from increased causalities and the attitude to those they replaced.
 
Did you have the pleasure of a tour of Iraq or Afgan?

Yes, both Afghanistan and Iraq and 2 in the Balkans and a total of 5 years in NI, also the first GW.
 
We have had non existent pay rises/freezes for 13 years, my pay has risen £200 a month in 13 years, my outgoings, rent, council tax, utilities, fuel for work etc has gone up £450 a month. There are no jobs that pay my current salary close to where I live, so I have to commute 15,000 a year, plus I'm too close to retirement to start again.
 
@wetsmonkey imagine if your force in replaced by a force 10x larger claiming you were reluctant to conduct operations, this comes down through the chain of command, so for example let’s put the workforce of the MET in Cumbria, nothing really changes apart from increased causalities and the attitude to those they replaced.
They would be bored in Cumbria, no action and no phone signal in a lot of places. :D
 
Does it matter? Bloke my dad worked with was in the Army for 2 years. Korea. length of service and tours don't matter. you went where you were sent. Some folk did 22 years holding back 3SA - I think no less of them than I do of those who have done other things since.

ETA and it bugs the sh1t out of me when you refer to the country as 'Afghan'. Afghan is an adjective. The country is called Afghanistan - we should do them the courtesy of using the name in full.
Afgan?

What bugs me is that @wetsmonkey compares the military to the police on some aspects, yet ignores other aspects. Biggest example overtime or time off in lieu?

He compares walking around Afgan with the same risk and vigor the police in his force do day to day?

He forgets the fact you go away, and at best you get to be a fobit which risks are DnV, sporadic rocket attack, at worst you may end up in pure Infantry fun and games.

Best to Compare the Police with the NHS and Fire-service, instead of an military service.
 

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