Police gone soft?

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Representatives of this a vibrant culture are suspected to have lifted a load of equipment from a local business over weekend.

Business owner not happy: all on CCTV but due to excessive workload nobody could attend, but somebody will be around to do...something...on Wednesday. Maybe.

Meanwhile, the same force:

Shakes head in despair.....................
 

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Ginger politzei..with gwarrrr beards?…..!!!!

This shit just got serious.
there’s even a chance the fecker could be Scottish or (heaven forbid) even from West England!
 
It's the dates that get to me. That was four/five years ago. It must not take that long for the cop or the family etc to wait with that sword of Damocles hanging over them. It's got to be quicker.

It's the same for everybody, including victims waiting for justice.. Deliberate Government neglect of criminal justice had created a disaster even before Covid...
 
It's the same for everybody, including victims waiting for justice.. Deliberate Government neglect of criminal justice had created a disaster even before Covid...

Absolutely. The CJS is a train wreck and was pre Covid.
 

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Scattering naked flames across the countryside in a dry season... what could possibly go wrong....


See the opening scene from "I give it a year"
Given that the police seem incapable or unwilling to get involved with the illegal e-scooters on the streets I don't expect they'll actually do much about airborne incendiary devices.

Plus being called 'Chinese Lanterns' means there's a chance of upsetting the BAME community which is career damaging.
 
you don't want to go using facts and evidence to upset the newspaper rustling harumphing classes of ARRSE.

Has it occurred to you that:

a) there are quite a few SMEs on Arrse who use their experience as evidence and fact to backup their POV,

b) the harrumphing classes might just feel justified in their hard earned tax being well spent in terms of effective policing for and of all rather than policing for those who shout loudest of those who consent to be policed (the two are largely mutually exclusive),

c) the Rank and File Police Officers might just consider that effective leadership and command skills should be a given at all levels of leadership and command rather than having attended the correct courses,

d) doing your job and being pilloried for it whilst having both your hands tied behind your back courtesy of a) to c) above might just be very demoralising yet they go out shift after shift and try to make a positive difference and

e) people like you are part of the problem and probably aren’t quite ready for grown up debate

I am not a Police Officer. My daughter is 3 weeks into becoming one and I know a few down the pub. Their version of the world doesn’t get into papers and if it did, I’d largely ignore it and listen to people who actually do the job rather than the agenda driven utterances of agenda driven people. Which camp are you in, Spouter Of Agenda Bollocks or Bloke/ess who’s actually done the job?
 

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This was more realistic.
 
Ah, the old “open carrier”.
Fecking funny when you could hear conversations slagging some one off, depending on who the controller was it was quite a while before someone butted in with “xyz you have an open carrier”. Then complete silence, but all the relief was pissing themselves laughing except one car.
I missed those storno radios.
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Did yours ever work? They rarely did in Hillingdon.
 
It's almost unheard of at Rugby matches.

All the violence is on the pitch. ;)
I did aid at Twickenham once in the late nineties for some big rugby final. What a difference to football matches especially Wembley. Chaps who had been drinking all day and were as pissed as rats, but still good natured. No fights between opposing fans or even themselves, no disorder, polite to old bill.

The only anti social behaviour was of chaps having consumed large amounts of alcholic beverages needing to urgently vent some of that excess liquid usually onto peoples front gardens after they had left the ground.
 
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I did aid at Twickenham once in the late nineties for some big rugby final. What a difference to football matches especially Wembley. Chaps who had been drinking all day and were as pissed as rats, but still good natured. No fights between opposing fans are even themselves, no disorder, polite to old bill.

The only anti social behaviour was of chaps having consumed large amounts of alcholic beverages needing to urgently vent some of that excess liquid usually onto peoples front gardens after they had left the ground.
I recall a couple of photos of the police at football matches.

The first, pre-fifties, I'm guessing the coppers have their backs to the crowd, watching the match.

The second, post 70s, they're watching the crowd and the numbers are different too.
 
I did aid at Twickenham once in the late nineties for some big rugby final. What a difference to football matches especially Wembley. Chaps who had been drinking all day and were as pissed as rats, but still good natured. No fights between opposing fans are even themselves, no disorder, polite to old bill.

The only anti social behaviour was of chaps having consumed large amounts of alcholic beverages needing to urgently vent some of that excess liquid usually onto peoples front gardens after they had left the ground.

That's a problem in the neighbourhood around Murryfield as well. Understandably, the residents are not best pleased. Especially given the house prices in Edinburgh. That said, I'd rather live in Murryfield during a Calcutta Cup match than anywhere near Ibrox or Parkhead after an Old Firm game.
 
you don't want to go using facts and evidence to upset the newspaper rustling harumphing classes of ARRSE.
I accept your tongue may have been firmly in your cheek, I no longer have any formal connection to the police, so I am not commenting directly on the situation that I referred to, I was trying to highlight an alternative view.
I did do some jobs with some very specialised police units several years ago. Most of them truly despair at the situations they now find themselves in.
Sadly we all agreed that the situation will not be changing any time soon.
 

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Did yours ever work? They rarely did in Hillingdon.
They could be dodgy, but I do recall problems with those Motorola radios that replaced the storno. We had a lot of problems on our ground with the new ones where on certain roads you just couldn’t get a a signal.
Do you remember the twanging on the storno ? Couldn’t do that on the new ones as they knew who was transmitting.
 

Gout Man

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I did aid at Twickenham once in the late nineties for some big rugby final. What a difference to football matches especially Wembley. Chaps who had been drinking all day and were as pissed as rats, but still good natured. No fights between opposing fans are even themselves, no disorder, polite to old bill.

The only anti social behaviour was of chaps having consumed large amounts of alcholic beverages needing to urgently vent some of that excess liquid usually onto peoples front gardens after they had left the ground.
Lucky so and so, I never did a rugby match.
 
I did aid at Twickenham once in the late nineties for some big rugby final. What a difference to football matches especially Wembley. Chaps who had been drinking all day and were as pissed as rats, but still good natured. No fights between opposing fans are even themselves, no disorder, polite to old bill.

The only anti social behaviour was of chaps having consumed large amounts of alcholic beverages needing to urgently vent some of that excess liquid usually onto peoples front gardens after they had left the ground.
Army v Navy?
 

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