Police firing range costs 2.5million

Fang_Farrier

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-29630679

"A £2.5m police firing range has been opened near the Dounreay nuclear power complex in Caithness.
The eight-lane 164ft-long (50m) range is for Civil Nuclear Constabulary (CNC) officers who guard Dounreay.
Dounreay is in the process of being closed down and cleaned up in a £1.6bn project.
When the firing range is no longer needed, it will be demolished and the land reinstated and made available for agricultural use.
Highland Council gave Dounreay Site Restoration Limited (DSRL) planning permission for the range in May last year.
In 2012, noise from the nuclear site's previous firing range raised what was described as a rare complaint from the public.
DSRL suspected the demolition of buildings at Dounreay had removed a buffer to shots on the range.
The company said weapons used by the constabulary had not changed and suspected the loss of buildings that had screened the range had resulted in the complaint."

A single rare complaint in 2011 leads to two and a half million pounds spent on a new range in 2014.

How does a 50m range cost that much?
 
The company said weapons used by the constabulary had not changed and suspected the loss of buildings that had screened the range had resulted in the complaint."

A single rare complaint in 2011 leads to two and a half million pounds spent on a new range in 2014.

How does a 50m range cost that much?

They could have put acoustic screens up around the existing range for a fraction of that price.
 

CanteenCowboy

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-29630679

"A £2.5m police firing range has been opened near the Dounreay nuclear power complex in Caithness.
The eight-lane 164ft-long (50m) range is for Civil Nuclear Constabulary (CNC) officers who guard Dounreay.
Dounreay is in the process of being closed down and cleaned up in a £1.6bn project.
When the firing range is no longer needed, it will be demolished and the land reinstated and made available for agricultural use.
Highland Council gave Dounreay Site Restoration Limited (DSRL) planning permission for the range in May last year.
In 2012, noise from the nuclear site's previous firing range raised what was described as a rare complaint from the public.
DSRL suspected the demolition of buildings at Dounreay had removed a buffer to shots on the range.
The company said weapons used by the constabulary had not changed and suspected the loss of buildings that had screened the range had resulted in the complaint."

A single rare complaint in 2011 leads to two and a half million pounds spent on a new range in 2014.

How does a 50m range cost that much?

It cost that much as a clever bid was made to build it. Obviously it will be state of the art, and not some 'Pipe Range' pimped up!
 

mercurydancer

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Cardinal Fang

You had me worried for a moment, Police firing ranges, I thought that the next word would be Kent!
 
Cardinal Fang

You had me worried for a moment, Police firing ranges, I thought that the next word would be Kent!
Just give it time. He'll be like a moth to a flame.


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Just give it time. He'll be like a moth to a flame.

The CNC would be the ones who would deal with, for example, sabotage of standby generators iaw stage 3 of the Garland Plan, whether the location be Dounreay or Dungeness. The local force would not get a look-in, not even the much-vaunted Kent Constabulary.
Richard Card
 
Everything in the public sector costs ten times more than anywhere else, maybe?
And don't forget the Civil Nuclear Constabulary paid out £35k to two female officers beacause their issued Glock 17 were too big for their hands.
Money to burn?
 

theoriginalphantom

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How much does it cost when the police shoot brazilian electricians? This could be bargain in comparison.
 

Ravers

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There are various reasons why it costs that much.

1. Dounreay is a Nuclear Licensed Site. This means any accident that takes place there, including conventional building accidents get marked down as a nuclear incident. This means you can't use cowboy fuckwit builders. Likewise they will need to be security cleared before they can go on site and some people will even need DV clearance. They will also all need radiological training. The building firm will have to take these costs into account.

2. All buildings on Nuclear Licensed Sites need to be designed with decommissioning in mind, i.e worse case scenario, if the building gets contaminated, it has to be easy to dismantle and dispose of. The design of the building is not the same as a conventional building located off site. All new buildings on nuclear sites are designed to be decommissioned.

3. Dounreay's site licence will have various conditions laid down within, including maintenance, record keeping, asset care and asset tagging. These will have to be adhered to for all equipment on site, including the building and everything inside it. In layman's terms, this means every lightbulb in the range will have a 20 or 30 page document detailing how to change it, with a risk assessment, engineering drawings etc. Producing this paperwork costs money.

These are conditions dictated by the Office of Nuclear Regulating (ONR) and the EU. The CNC, NDA and operators of Dounreay don't have any say in the matter. It might sound like overkill but when you're dealing with Plutonium and other shit that is nastier than you can possibly imagine, it's not worth risking anything or leaving anything to chance.

For those wondering why they're bothering to build a new range on a site that is being decommissioned; Dounreay will eventually become a low level waste repository that will need guarding for the next 300 years.
 
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Signed Ravers

Bloke who currently happens to be building a CNC firing range on a Nuclear Licensed Site.

(And mine is gonna cost a fuckload more than 2.5 million.)


You got the ok for the .50s and Phalanx CIWS?
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
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There are various reasons why it costs that much.

1. Dounreay is a Nuclear Licensed Site. This means any accident that takes place there, including conventional building accidents get marked down as a nuclear incident. This means you can't use cowboy fuckwit builders. Likewise they will need to be security cleared before they can go on site and some people will even need DV clearance. They will also all need radiological training. The building firm will have to take these costs into account.

2. All buildings on Nuclear Licensed Sites need to be designed with decommissioning in mind, i.e worse case scenario, if the building gets contaminated, it has to be easy to dismantle and dispose of. The design of the building is not the same as a conventional building located off site. All new buildings on nuclear sites are designed to be decommissioned.

3. Dounreay's site licence will have various conditions laid down within, including maintenance, record keeping, asset care and asset tagging. These will have to be adhered to for all equipment on site, including the building and everything inside it. In layman's terms, this means every lightbulb in the range will have a 20 or 30 page document detailing how to change it, with a risk assessment, engineering drawings etc. Producing this paperwork costs money.

These are conditions dictated by the Office of Nuclear Regulating (ONR) and the EU. The CNC, NDA and operators of Dounreay don't have any say in the matter. It might sound like overkill but when you're dealing with Plutonium and other shit that is nastier than you can possibly imagine, it's not worth risking anything or leaving anything to chance.

For those wondering why they're bothering to build a new range on a site that is being decommissioned; Dounreay will eventually become a low level waste repository that will need guarding for the next 300 years.

Signed Ravers

Bloke who currently happens to be building a CNC firing range on a Nuclear Licensed Site.

(And mine is gonna cost a fuckload more than 2.5 million.)

If safety's such an issue, why are they letting armed plod anywhere near the place?
 

NSP

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I thought you herded cows? When you're not shouting at car leasing wonks, that is.
 
@Ravers Stupid question maybe but why do they have to build a range there, why couldn't they just use existing ranges on other police/military sites.

There must be a good reason for them to spend so much dosh?
 

Ravers

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@Ravers Stupid question maybe but why do they have to build a range there, why couldn't they just use existing ranges on other police/military sites.

There must be a good reason for them to spend so much dosh?

You seen how far away Dounreay is from the rest of the civilised world?
 

Ravers

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I thought you herded cows? When you're not shouting at car leasing wonks, that is.

Still got all that shit going on, but this came up and it's far too cool to turn down.
 

beufighter

Old-Salt
And don't forget the Civil Nuclear Constabulary paid out £35k to two female officers beacause their issued Glock 17 were too big for their hands.
Money to burn?

Whoops...nearly misread that one.:slow:

£35k is a bit much for 4 hands on a 17. Must be a side effect of radiation.8)
 

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