PMCs being awarded campaign medals

#1
This is going to sound really bone, but are PMCs (i.e Private Military Contractors) eligible for campaign service medals we are issued on deployment to Herrick and Telic?

Won't ask around my unit in case in case I'm in for a ripping apart
 

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#2
This is going to sound really bone, but are PMCs (i.e Private Military Contractors) eligible for campaign service medals we are issued on deployment to Herrick and Telic?

Won't ask around my unit in case in case I'm in for a ripping apart
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#4
Ask yourself why should they? were they serving themselves or their country? If you look really hard you've answered your own question.....PRIVATE Military Contractor.
 
#5
Dont understand why it's such a daft question. In some cases, we are awarded medals, for example the Iraq Reconstruction Service Medal is issued by the FCO to contractors engaged on the Iraq embassy contract (see halfway down this page: Control Risks | Careers)
 
#6
This is going to sound really bone, but are PMCs (i.e Private Military Contractors) eligible for campaign service medals we are issued on deployment to Herrick and Telic?

Won't ask around my unit in case in case I'm in for a ripping apart
Please tell me you're not in the British Army.....
 
#7
Yes PMC's (Private Maintenace Companies) are awarded campaign medals. We had a civilian guy known as the Korean Poo Man who used to look after the $chitters. He had a rack of Gongs including the VD Scab & Bar, the Distinguished Racasan Medal with Andrex Leaf & the DSO (Distinguished Sanitary Order).

 
#10
The reconstruction medal isn't a campaign medal issued by the government to their service personnel though....or is it? I'm thinking the key words are military and contractor, could just be me though, I get confused easy
 
#11
If you worked directly for the Gvt in Iraq/Afghanistan ie for the FCO. For the required time period yes

PMCs (CRG) work for the FCO, therefore yes. PMCs can pick up the gong

there is loads on this shit use the search option
 
#13
If you worked directly for the Gvt in Iraq/Afghanistan ie for the FCO. For the required time period yes

PMCs (CRG) work for the FCO, therefore yes. PMCs can pick up the gong

there is loads on this shit use the search option
The simple answer is YES private contractors employed through MoD can qualify for campaign medals and military awards if deployed under the arrangements of CONDO(Contractors deployed on operations) There is a JSP/DCI or whatever you call it these days that covers the criteria. I am afraid the GIMP is incorrect as they do not deploy as part of FCO but as part of MoD with MoD ID cards.

I left the Army after 25 years in 1999 (with GSM (NI) and UNFICYP medals. Since then I have deployed with Hiberna FM in Kosovo, and KBR in Iraq and Afghanistan and have been awarded and received the appropriate campaign medals which were legitimately issued by the MoD Medals Office. As an aside time spent on deployment as a civilian contractor under CONDO also counts towards the qualifying period for award of the ACSM (2 members of KBR who were both former servicemen were awarded ACSM at the end of last year as their KBR service in Afghan added to their regular Army time and meant that they were fully qualified.

I stand by for the usual slagging of contractors and why should they get it when they dont do the same as us etc.
 
#15
Yes they can.

I got the IRSM in 2006 working for AGI training the Iraqi Police. It was an FCO contract. Guys working on MOD contracts got the Telic medal.

I also got the OSM for working in Afghanistan (on an MOD contract) as well as some NATO crap
 
#18
I'm a full Corporal in the ACF.
You'll be happy to know, yes, 7 years TA, and I'm being addressed by some knob head cadet :) bless him hes so cute!!!, can I keep him?

He'd have to be some under-age underpriviliged child to be a corporal in the ACF, they don't do fullscrews in the adult staff.
 
#19
In addition to my earlier post, it's also worth noting that there have been instances where fellow contractors have been considered (possibly still are) for gallantry medals whilst deployed on ops, up to and including the GC. One such example involved a fellow Arrser who died as a result of his actions being considered for the GC.
The FCO contract was certainly run by CR for a long while, it's recently been handed over to Garda, who are doing a good job, as stated in my first post (and since echoed by others), these guys were entitled the Iraq Reconstruction gong.
 
#20
As someone who owns what’s classed as a PMC, (we were one of the first companies to work in Iraq just after the invasion); I think that anyone working for a PMC should not be awarded any gongs unless in very exceptional circumstances.

CP Teams get paid for what they do and do it not for the greater good of anyone but themselves and their families.
 

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