PM refused extra troops for Afghanistan - General Dannatt

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  1. Prime Minister Gordon Brown refused a major Afghanistan troop reinforcement against the military's advice, the former head of the Army has said.

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    Gen Sir Richard Dannatt stood down in August 2009 after repeatedly speaking out against what he said were equipment shortages and poor pay and conditions.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8291935.stm
     
  2. Can't possibly be true, Gordon says he always gives military commanders what they ask for - "never refused a UOR" was it? Or it's because Bob can't find enough left boots for the 2000 - we've got to have enough equipment.

    The sooner we get these charlatans out of power the better.
     
  3. Is anyone really surprised by this revelation?

    Lies, lies, lies and more lies - Brown's legacy.
     
  4. This is yet another case of treason and as such he and Labour should be punished to the highest degree. fcuking discraceful bunch.
     
  5. Should he not have spoken up whilst CGS?
     
  6. And we're surprised by Gordo's actions how ? Afg is an unpopular war and sending more troops would hardly make the populus like him any more.
     
  7. He was very vocal. Why do you think he isn't CDS, with Sir Jock hanging in for a bit longer.
     
  8. chimera

    chimera LE Moderator

    Can't say this is much of a revelation to the Army and indeed it is odd that the Downing Street spokesman" (aka Labour Spin Doctor) is denying it. The formation concerned had been nominated and trained, and was expecting to deploy.
     
  9. chimera

    chimera LE Moderator

    What planet have you been on for the past 2 years?
     
  10. Jim30, when we discussed this, you stated that this was just unsubstantiated rumour. What are your thoughts now?

    As for speaking out earlier, it was leaked at the time. I wonder by whom?

    Problem is, a leak is deniable, Dannatt has cleared everything up now he is free from the shackles of office.

    Brown is clearly trying to fight a war on the cheap and just like Basra it will end up in failure. He is the most cynical politician of his generation and should be removed as fast as possible. If he wants to avoid casualties then why doesn't he pay for decent equipment? The failure to purchase 5 more chinook helos indicates this is all about money and a pathetic attempt at saving political reputations.

    If he has a shred of honour he would resign.
     
  11. Not only does Gordon Brown believe he is a financial genius that saved the economies of the world, but he also believes he is a military expert with the rank of Field Marshal who knows more about fighting wars than his experienced Generals who have more than 30 years service.

    Brown - a man who "writes" books about courage but doesn't know the meaning of the word.
     
  12. Gen. Dannatt walked the walk for his entire career.
    Gordon Brown is at best a bit-part player, who was unlucky enough to get the reins of power when (all praise to him)Saint Tony Blair jumped when the economy started going south.


    I'm totally inclined towards the generals version of timings and events, Gordon (is a moron) wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on his fat drug addled arrse.
     
  13. Good. It the blokes who are serving at present who will have to conduct more tours in a shorter turnaround time and (mostly) not the ones gobbing off on here about how wrong it is that GB has turned it down.
     
  14. If Gordon Brown had any concern about harmony guidelines why did he agree to the original Helmand deployment in 2006? That is the one that has over-stretched the military to breaking point at times since. (I opposed that deployment at the time for the same reasons you allude to, with the addition that the equipment and support was woefully inadequate).

    If Gordon Brown had genuine concerns about this request for reinforcements, (other than money), why didn't he face the British people at the time and explain why he was refusing a legitimate request from his most senior generals?

    You heard the EOD SSgt yesterday. A 30 hour shift defusing bombs. FFS, that is enough to kill anyone.....
     
  15. We already knew in July this government didn't care about our soldiers losing their lives, our government that's all they care about is themselves living the life of luxury,while our soldiers are sent to fight a war with out the correct manpower and vital equipment .
    British people pay taxes so that our troops are looked after properly and supposed to have the correct equipment etc ,Not pay for the government to have lavish life styles .THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD GET THEIR ACT TOGEATHER OR RESIGN AND PUT ANOTHER PARTY IN WHO CAN DO THE JOB PROPERLY .