PM meets Muslims shocker!

#1
In what is shure to be a great demonstration of hot air, vim and vitriol and arrse, the BBC (and everyone else) report this:

PM set to meet senior UK Muslims

Prime Minister Tony Blair is to meet Muslim leaders and community workers from across Britain at No 10 to discuss how to respond to the London bombings.

Along with opposition leaders, who are also attending, he will ask how young Britons became suicide bombers and how best to tackle teachers of extremism.

He will offer backing to leaders who expose problems in their communities.

Meanwhile, Chancellor Gordon Brown has pledged an extra £20m to help victims of the bombs and pay for more policing.

Tuesday's meeting at Downing Street is one of several this week aimed at reaching the widest possible consensus on action to deal with terrorism and its causes.

The focus will be on how to fight what the prime minister has termed an "evil ideology".

Money laundering

Of the extra money announced by the chancellor, £10m will go into the criminal injuries compensation scheme to help those wounded by the bombs.

It will be used to help cover the loss of earnings and unforeseen costs suffered by the victims and their families.

It is separate from £1m given by the government to the relief fund set up by London mayor Ken Livingstone and the Red Cross.

A further £10m will go to the Metropolitan Police to help the force with its counter-terrorism work.

The cash is part of a wider package to improve the way terrorist money laundering is tackled.

Mr Brown is asking the Serious and Organised Crime Agency to report on how it plans to respond to a sharp rise in the number of suspicious transactions monitored by financial institutions.

And he is setting up a group of money laundering experts to investigate what more can be done internationally to restrict terrorist cash flows.

'Disenchantment'

Muslim Council of Britain representative Inayat Bunglawala - one of those attending the Downing Street meeting - told GMTV that there had been a "clear increase in disenchantment" among Muslim youths.

"Muslim youths are generally underachieving with high rates of unemployment," he said.

Mr Bunglawala also referred to a report published by UK think-tank Chatham house, which said the Iraq war had made it easier for al-Qaeda to exploit a sense of grievance among the Muslim community.

"It's fair the Government should ask itself whether policies such as those involving the Iraq war have contributed to this," he said.

"We need a partnership between government and Muslims to show people they are not being ignored and that their concerns will be heard."
Hang on a second - just read that last line again. Would we have sat down with the Catholic Falls Road community to discuss a 'fairer deal' for Catholics? No! Is it just me, or does this look like the 'Muslim community' (who are all devoted Brits remember) are using the atrocity to further their own ends? Doesn't this look uncannily like the 'Muslim community' are blackmailing the Government?
 
#2
yeap, it sounds precisely like that. however yuo wont find any of the mass media drawing that obvious conclusion as they can't possibly say sensible things, people would shout "racism". Bloody PC nonesense.
 
#3
I don't understand why the government needs to compensate the victims of the bombs? Surely the medical is paid for on the NHS, as is the psycological (councelling etc). Any posessions will be covered by home insurance or whatever. What more do they need? May seem liek a hartless comment, but i do get annoyed by the way that everybody seems to want/get handouts that they don't really need!!!

OS
 
#4
No, you lot. The idea is to stop young Muslims being exposed to to extremist and radical preaching thus preventing them from turning into into walking bombs. We can only do this if we talk to the Muslim leaders who feel the same way as they are the only ones (let's face it) who can spot the nutters and do something about it before it corrupts. It was Downing Street who requested and organised the meeting. I hate all this PC crap as much as anyone here but this isn't the case here.
 
#5
Oneshot said:
I don't understand why the government needs to compensate the victims of the bombs? Surely the medical is paid for on the NHS, as is the psycological (councelling etc). Any posessions will be covered by home insurance or whatever. What more do they need? May seem liek a hartless comment, but i do get annoyed by the way that everybody seems to want/get handouts that they don't really need!!!

OS
I think this is about the existing Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme.
 
#7
Some random comments:

"Every Muslim needs to consider themselves to be an ambassador of Islam for the wider of society"
Dr Imran Waheed, Hizb ut-Tahrir Britain

"Alienation must be addressed by all communities"
Keith Best, Immigration Advisory Service

"The likely cause is political anger over foreign policies"
Shaista Gohir, Muslim Voice UK

"There has been a failure to consider the concerns of Muslim youth"
Amber Lone, playwright

"If we are to defeat al-Qaeda inspired terrorism in the UK then there will have to be a genuine partnership between the government and the Muslim communities here"
Inayat Bunglawala, Muslim Council of Britain

"British non-Muslims need to learn more about Islam and its values and the Muslims need to learn more about British culture"
Hassan Malik, student
Good to see some sense being spoken...I like the last comment - it's a no-brainer but no less true for all that!
 
#8
Read a recent article in the Times supplement, making the argument that why should we tiptoe around Islam for fear of making offence, when we are actually the injured party and are subjected to abuse, threats and 'racism' from Muslims.

An interesting article, in particular I was interested to note that prior to the bombings, anyone writing such an article would have (a) not been published, and (b) been vilified by the wider PC press.
 
#9
Darth_Doctrinus said:
Some random comments:

"The likely cause is political anger over foreign policies"
Shaista Gohir, Muslim Voice UK

"There has been a failure to consider the concerns of Muslim youth"
Amber Lone, playwright
So what's happened to NORMAL political protest? I know that it rarely achieves much (quiet conversations in smoke-filled rooms and all that) but it's how we British vent our spleens.
 
#10
PM meets muslims, so he can work out how to keep the muslim vote for the Labour party. This involves the PM bending over backwards to do anything muslims want.

The PM and the muslims both want to see the end of "Britain" and "Britishness".

The PM and muslims will discuss why the infidels of Britain forced muslims to become bombers.
 
#13
deleted by me as opposed to a MOD, there's a first then :D
 
#14
Meeting of Muslim "elders" & liar Blair.
Some comments from muslims.......

Radical Muslims dismissed the meeting as a sham and even some moderates said they were suspicious of Blair's agenda.

"The whole focus has been on trying to put the blame on Islam and the Muslim leadership," said Ahmed Versi, editor of the Muslim News, Britain's biggest selling Muslim newspaper.

He said there was "deep concern" in the Muslim community "about how far Blair may try and impose some kind of secular interpretation of Islam in his declared aim of helping Muslims to find a 'moderate and true voice'.

"Anjem Choudary, said Tuesday's meeting at Downing Street was an irrelevance.

"The type of so-called Muslims at this meeting are those who toe the government line," he said. "They are the lackeys of the British government. They're the ones who have been appointed by Tony Blair to be the official voice of the Muslims."

He said the country would inevitably be attacked again by Islamist militants if it refused to change its foreign policy in Iraq, the Middle East and Kashmir.



So meeting not quite as good as liar Blair says.
 
#17
It wouldn't be politics without the dissenters. There was absolutely no way there could be 100% concensus between the muslim factions - recent history in Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran bear that out. Even the "moderate" states, Bahrain for example have their opposition parties - usually fairly swiftly stomped on, nevertheless here in UK, it gets them out in the open.
 
#18
The danger with Neue Arbeit is they "define" something and then expect that something to be as they have defined it. Their perspective of the Islamic religion will probably be very good on symbolism and published/accepted dogmas and practices but lack a true insight as to the quintessential "faith-based" nature of Islam.

The Muslim spokes-people put up by both Labour and the tories over the past couple of days have made my hackles rise. If I was a fundamentalist these are precisely the kind of people I would find it easy to tar with the fellow-traveller, secularised muslim brush and so make it easy for me to portray their statements as pro-Western, heretical clap-trap.

Tony has once again gone for a focus group based solution! Once again he has got the focus out by a long way. Deck chair moving on the Titanic anybody??
 
#19
FYI the Mr Anjem Chaudaury quoted above is actually the national spokesman for the Islamofascist/fanatic/extremist Muslim group (delete as desired) known as Al-Muhajiroun.
 

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