PM Blair To Be Shown The Door?

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#1
From The Independent:

Tony Blair will be served notice to quit Downing Street at a meeting of the Cabinet next week when senior ministers plan to confront him over his refusal to commit to a departure timetable.

One described Mr Blair this weekend as "deluded", while another said he was being "self-indulgent". They are among a growing number of cabinet ministers, some formerly loyal to Mr Blair, who have concluded he must leave office sooner rather than later if Labour is to have a chance of winning a fourth term.

"This pantomime has to end or we are going to lose the next election," said one last night.

Another was brutally dismissive of the Prime Minister's attempt to "spray around policy initiatives" ahead of the party's annual conference in Manchester. "Tony is deluding himself if he thinks that anyone is listening to all this stuff."


"'Deluded': Extraordinary attack on Blair by Cabinet" by Francis Elliott, Whitehall Editor. 3 September 2006
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article1325433.ece
 
#2
I hope he stays as PM untill the next General Election.

The people can then give their verdict on his legacy.

On second thoughts what will he have got us into.

Go now.
 
#3
NWD, you've made me very happy with that post. In fact, I'm fuffed to chuck about it. When I first read the title, I misunderstood it as a statement because I failed to spot the question-mark at the end and let out a great whoop of joy. But as long as the slimy, arrogant fücker goes, that's good enough for me.

MsG
 
#5
On TV (on whatever David Frost's old programme is called now) this am the 'experts' were saying they expect him to hand on as long as he can and the longer he does the less likely Gordon Brown will be a shoe in, so not all bad news if he stays then.
 
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#7
I want Blair to stay.
Not because I like him but because I cant stand Labour.
They’ve become corrupt and decadent, everyone of the senior party members needs to go.
It’s time for a new party to take a stab at government and with Blair still in power at the next election it could be a strong possibility, unfortunately if someone like Gordon Brown were to be at the helm come election time Labour just might stand a chance at winning – the general public really is that stupid…
 
#8
If Blair is done in and given the boot, won't that mean Prescott is in charge until the labour lot ellect their new leader?
 
#9
That's why, despite over a million (hmmmmm) marched in the first anti war demonstration Blair got voted in again.

Why??????

They had a parties to vote for, parties that took an anti war stance. But those parties could not move the greater electorate to vote for them.

Do You HONESTLY think that the Boy wonder will get a look in next time, do You think He will even survive the knives in the next four years???? There are already mutterings from the traditionalists, the Thatcherites and the One Nationists over the various stances he is taking on the most important issues (most important as far as Tories are concerned that is).

Taking the ministers who are talking to the press. Doesn't it strike You as odd that although they are willing to stand up to him they aren't willing to put their names to their standing up to him. Whilst I am open to seeing the names in tomorrows news. Or the day after or the day after that. In fact I will be waiting all the way to the Labour conference for these names ot become public. It can't be that they are scared for their jobs - If they are going to confront him at the conference then, if He stays, they have got to go.

So why aren't they giving their names out in the press????? Because some might be chuntering but nobody is going to stand up to be counted. Which leaves the press whistling up a storm
 
#10
Sven said:
That's why, despite over a million (hmmmmm) marched in the first anti war demonstration Blair got voted in again.

Why??????

They had a parties to vote for, parties that took an anti war stance. But those parties could not move the greater electorate to vote for them.

Do You HONESTLY think that the Boy wonder will get a look in next time,
Sadly, if Blair was to remain PM I still think Labour would be re elected because the war in Iraq seems to be having no effect on the county's conscience AND house prices have stabilised and continued to increase in mnay areas. They, the 'people willing to get off their backsides to vote' are the ones that will make the difference IMHO.

So why aren't they giving their names out in the press????? Because some might be chuntering but nobody is going to stand up to be counted. Which leaves the press whistling up a storm
Don't worry, I think these ministers grumbling within Labour will make themselves known before the week is out. Whether any put themselves forward as leadership candidates will remain to be seen for weeks after.
 
#11
I like Blair, but it's time for him to go. "Charisma Brown" has got naff all chance of winning an election, I think John Reid is the most viable choice as leader.

But at the end of the day, I don't trust any of em.
 
#12
eveyuk said:
I like Blair, but it's time for him to go. "Charisma Brown" has got naff all chance of winning an election, I think John Reid is the most viable choice as leader.

But at the end of the day, I don't trust any of em.
Yesterday I realised that not once had I heard a good word said about Blair on ARRSE. And now I have. What do you like about him? His hair looks pretty good. He's got a pretty looking wife and great kids. He's a trustworthy chap, never fibs, puts the country first. Other than that I can't think of anything....
 
#15
doomandgloom said:
eveyuk said:
I like Blair, but it's time for him to go. "Charisma Brown" has got naff all chance of winning an election, I think John Reid is the most viable choice as leader.

But at the end of the day, I don't trust any of em.
Yesterday I realised that not once had I heard a good word said about Blair on ARRSE. And now I have. What do you like about him? His hair looks pretty good. He's got a pretty looking wife and great kids. He's a trustworthy chap, never fibs, puts the country first. Other than that I can't think of anything....
I have watched him and his body language (beyond the tutored non-pointing) quite often in his briefings, in interviews and parliament. I think he's a genuine guy and he believes in what he is doing. I don't think he is a good institutional manager, nor do I agree with his decisions on many things.

I like him, I'd have a pint with him but I won't be voting for him.
 

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#16
Text of the leaked memo, from his own MPs......'Know your enemy "

Leaked Blair memo: key quotes
The Daily Mirror has published what it says is a leaked memo from Tony Blair's advisors, detailing plans for his exit from office. Downing Street has not commented on the document. Here are key quotes from it:
The prime minister's legacy

"Time is not an unlimited commodity. His genuine legacy is not the delivery, important though that is, but the dominance of new Labour ideas ... the triumph of Blairism.

"As TB enters his final phase he needs to be focusing way beyond the finishing line, not looking at it.

"He needs to go with the crowds wanting more. He should be the star who won't even play that last encore. In moving towards the end he must focus on the future."

Blair vs Brown

"There are specific issues which can provide opportunities and threats. They are: GB's reaction ... the more successful we are the more it will agitate and possibly destabilise him, we need to consider how to deal."

Iraq

"We need to incorporate this into our media plan. It's the elephant in the room, let's face up to it ... Most importantly, are we up for it? Is TB up for it?"

Blair's last month

"Needs a daily grid, planned to the last detail.

"As much as possible a farewell tour, looking to the future, making sure the party is in the right place and the public remember him as he should be."

Connecting with the people

"He needs to embrace open spaces, the arts and businesses, he needs to be seen to be travelling on different forms of transport. He needs to be seen with people who will raise eyebrows.

"He needs to travel around the UK to be carefully positioned as someone who while not above politics, is certainly distancing himself from the political village.

"He should be dropping references in all that he does which reflect his energy and enthusiasm.

"This needs to move on from 'I'm getting on with the job' to 'this is a great job, I'm very lucky, I won't have it one day and before that day comes I still have lots to do and say'."

In charge until the last

"One where we make it clear that the PM will be spending his final period in office preparing Britain for its future challenges, setting out what they are and connecting with the public who gave him the chance to serve."

Working with the PM and being seen in "iconic locations"

"In seeking to achieve this the whole operation should reflect the change in the political atmosphere.

"TB focusing on his priorities: TB laying the foundations for the future based on his experience in office.

"this positive approach needs to be reflected not only by TB but by all those who work and support him. We should show how much we enjoy working for TB, what pride we take in our work and how we want his premiership to end on a high."

Above the political fray

"While we need to do what is required to defend the government and ensure a clarity of message, we should not be drawn into hand-to-hand combat.

"But if some of our own side are not prepared to accept this, and the Tories step up their attacks, then we will have to revisit ... but this whole approach has been adopted to avoid that, so we should work on the basis that we will have achieved this.

"As ever, this is not rocket science, we know what works well: strong, policy-focused events which have substance, striking pictures, words from TB and real people involved.

"But it is essential that we do all we can in our message and planning to ensure that we do not get knocked off by events."

Scotland and Wales

"Wales and Scotland - devolution despite the bumpy ride has been a success, TB should embrace this. His profile should be raised in the major urban areas in advance of the elections."

Other plans

The memo claims the exit strategy includes Mr Blair making appearances on Blue Peter, Songs of Praise and Chris Evans' radio show.

He will reportedly spend a day, then an overnight in six cities across the country; visit the 20 most striking buildings opened or redeveloped since 1997; increase the number of high-profile tours of schools and hospitals and avoid discussing job offers.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/uk_politics/5315114.stm
I can hear Alistair Campbell in every phrase.....
 
#17
Goatman said:
Text of the leaked memo, from his own MPs......'Know your enemy "

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"He needs to embrace open spaces, the arts and businesses, he needs to be seen to be travelling on different forms of transport. He needs to be seen with people who will raise eyebrows.
Oh thats good, we will expect him to visit the wounded from HERRICK/TELIC and the families of those killed on those ops.......
 
#19
DozyBint said:
rickshaw said:
Oh thats good, we will expect him to visit the wounded from HERRICK/TELIC and the families of those killed on those ops.......
Hahahahahaha...hahaha...ha. He wouldn't dare.
Part of me says "why not? He's shown no shame before" but then I do acknowledge that there isn't any positive spin by being photographed with the legless, the blinded or even those who have picked up the odd bauble like the VC......... Sorry, bit of a rant but even amongst the political class(less) Blair's posture is outstandingly repellent.
 
#20
rickshaw said:
Part of me says "why not? He's shown no shame before"...
True, but his weakness would win out and he'd not be able to face such men. Bliar has no honour or mental bravery - fine, not all men or women can be physically strong or be able to face the thought of warfare - but if he had the slightest bit of moral fortitude he'd have ensured that you lot were funded correctly and he'd be able to look you in the eye rather than peacocking on the world stage on the back of your endeavours.
 

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