PM admits misuse of immigration statistics.

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  1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8597530.stm

    Prime Minister Gordon Brown has acknowledged that he "misused" immigration figures, after being criticised by the statistics watchdog.

    In a podcast on Friday, Mr Brown said net migration into the UK fell from 237,000 in 2007 to 163,000 in 2008 and provisionally 147,000 in 2009.

    But the head of UK Statistics Authority agreed with a Tory complaint that he had made inaccurate comparisons.

    Downing Street said it accepted the statistics had been "unclear".

    But it insisted that Mr Brown had since corrected them.

    The rebuke came hours after the prime minister talked up government progress on immigration.

    In a speech in London, Mr Brown said there had been a significant drop in asylum claims and net immigration thanks to Labour's "tough and hard-headed" policy and warned would-be illegal migrants they were not "welcome" in the UK.

    'Care needed'

    In the podcast, Mr Brown cited the figures to argue that a new points system introduced in 2008 - determining which skilled workers from outside the EU can enter the country - had "radically changed the way we are dealing with immigration".

    The Conservatives said the PM had used two different sets of statistics to make his case and left out important caveats about the figures.

    They said he had failed to point out that the net immigration figure for 2009 only covered the year up to June, while asylum seekers and people overstaying their original visas were included in the figures for 2007 and 2008 but excluded for 2009.

    Sir Michael Scholar, the head of independent UK Statistics Authority, said he had written to Mr Brown to point out that the figures he cited for net immigration between 2007 and 2009 were "not comparable".

    In addition, he said the prime minister's comments had not taken into account the fact that the figure for 2007 had been revised.

    However, Sir Michael noted that the figures used by Mr Brown in Wednesday's speech were correct.

    He added: "The Statistics Authority hopes that in the political debate over the coming weeks all parties will be careful in their use of statistics, to protect the integrity of official statistics."

    Responsibility

    In response to Sir Michael's letter, a Downing Street spokesman said: "We accept that some of the statistics used in the prime minister's podcast were not strictly comparable and as a result were unclear.



    "The figures he used in his speech are consistent with the analysis set out in the accompanying note from Sir Michael Scholar."

    Immigration Minister Phil Woolas urged people not to "dance on a pin head" when it came to the battle over statistics.

    "The fact is the figures are down," he told Channel 4 News. "That is what is important."

    But shadow home secretary Chris Grayling said the prime minister had given an "inaccurate picture of his record on immigration".

    "Britain should expect better from its prime minister," he said. "No wonder we need change."

    BBC home affairs editor Mark Easton said that despite the watchdog's desire not to get involved in political controversy, it had found itself in the middle of a pre-election spat.

    The Statistics Authority was set up by Mr Brown last year to ensure the correct use of official data.

    It has ticked off both Labour and the Conservatives in recent months about their use of statistics, saying they had a responsibility to ensure their claims were not misleading."


    Lies, damn lies and statistics
     
  2. Once lying cnut,always a lying cnut
     
  3. Biped

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    I think that you will find his strict presbyterian upbringing stops him being a liar as it goes against everything he believes in. He told me so.
     
  4. Gordon Brown.... out and out liar. I'd like to poke his good eye out.
     
  5. It's strange that when the Government misuse information it is quite acceptable but should the opposition do it they are dishonest.

    One rule for Labour and the rest of us are in the Sh1t.
     
  6. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

    IF the Tories get in they will do the exact same


    After all they are all lying politicians
     
  7. Gosh another Porky! Bit like the Iraq enquiry on defence spending, is this man incapable of telling the truth or is this the Mirror school of Journalism (I bet Piers Morgan is in there somewhere). Tell a lie and issue an apology on page 10 under the WI flower produce prize list.
     
  8. Whenever he says something, just believe the opposite to be true.

    It would be more of a story if the lying one eyed cnut actually told the truth for once, in fact hows that for a task... finding out an instance in which Brown didn't lie?
     
  9. He only lies when his lips move!

    After 13 years of spinning out figures like a calculator on speed, he has been caught out by his own creation the UK Statistics Authority........

    Lying Cnut, unfortunately he has passed this trait on to his ministers too, Jackie Smith, Peter Hain, Baroness Scotland and a few others.
     
  10. Didn't he once say "Fcuk you lot, I am going to hang on to this job for as long as I can and make as much money as possible before they get wise to me"?
     
  11. Most of us were already wise to the psychotic idiot, alas coming from Scotland he fitted in well with the locals and was thus elected to parliament :pukel:
     
  12. And of course there are no psychotic idiots that fit in with the locals who are elected in England or Wales or Norn Iron :roll:
     

  13. You're perfectly correct... George Galloway to name one!! He certainly fits in with the idiots that voted for him.
     
  14. Correct and you are forgetting Blair, Prescott, Harman, Miliband, Straw, Balls, or going further back Thatcher, Heseltine, Howard and Tebbit, common denominator - English voters
     
  15. So Brown lied. What's the story here then?