Please read - For my Dad (Irish Rangers and Royal Engineers)

Hi Everyone,

Firstly, I have posted this here for maximum exposure but also as I'm not sure where to put it as there are so many categories! Looks a great forum and nice to see so much discussion. Feel free to move to a better area, I did look but I was quite confused where to go.

Now - why am I posting this
Unfortunately my Dad is 67 and not well at all. He is in hospital and has Parkinson's Disease and the start of Dementia. We think he may have just had a stroke. I have no idea how he will be in a week, two weeks or a month etc.

I will keep this brief....

My Dad (he is northern irish)
- He joined the Irish Rangers in 1972 I believe
- He then joined the Royal Engineers around 1976 as a Lance Corporal
- He became a Bomb Disposal engineer and worked within Northern Ireland during the troubles
- Many stories of deactivating live devices mostly in Northern Ireland and patrolling - very interesting with this strong northern irish accent
- He tells stories of dealing with explosives on the Shankill Road, Falls Road and Ardougne
- Also served in Zimbabwe
- Reached WO1
- Left after 24 years - after extending by 2 years
- We lived in: (some before I was born)
----- Warminster
----- Iserlohn
----- Tidworth
----- Osnabuck
----- Farnborough
----- Antrim
----- Omagh
----- Naumburg
----- Chattenden, Kent
----- Hameln
- Joined the Police for 16 years
- Retired and did some voluntary work until he became ill very suddenly
- He was a very good footballer - not pro but just got his "colours" as a result (I think that's what he said but that may not be right)

Can you help me by:

- Where did the Irish Rangers go or serve, what did they do - this will trigger him telling me a story
- Where did the Royal Engineers serve and go - same as above
----- Such as deployments, conflicts
----- Training centres or areas
----- Names of places that will make him go "Oh yes, this happened...."
- Military questions
---- Same as above really, what places, terminology, funny things could I say which would lead on to a conversation

Lastly - forget my suggestions, what would you ask about his service, what places, typical things, complaints, whinges, funny things between 1980-2000s particularly which would spark a conversation.

My Brother and I are desperate to capture this on video before he loses all memory and cognitive function.

Thank you from all of us
Gary
 
Might not be him but... Ask him did he ever do a job where he picked up a WW2 Era air dropped smoke bomb on a beach.
 

Brooker

Old-Salt
Ahhhh RedRabbit, tragic to hear this, it's a brilliant idea honestly brilliant my poor little mum had vascular dementia same result different pathway. I really feel for you all.

I'm a Northern Rhodesian (Zambia now) DM me there must be Sappers on here that knew him, I was in the province 81-82 after joining in 78
Make another thread along the lines of
"Calling all Sappers 1976 - 1990" Did you know

Please DM me I'll have a think, I need the DM because I'll forget ;)
What would be really helpful is which Engineer units he was in and when. When did he move from the Irish Rangers etc that will really help.
ALmost all ENgineer squadrons have their own squadron history if he was decent at sport he could very well be in some of them

I have to say what would be really amazing is tracking down anyone that knew him.

DM me but really a brilliant idea!
 

Brooker

Old-Salt
Hi Everyone,

Firstly, I have posted this here for maximum exposure but also as I'm not sure where to put it as there are so many categories! Looks a great forum and nice to see so much discussion. Feel free to move to a better area, I did look but I was quite confused where to go.

Now - why am I posting this
Unfortunately my Dad is 67 and not well at all. He is in hospital and has Parkinson's Disease and the start of Dementia. We think he may have just had a stroke. I have no idea how he will be in a week, two weeks or a month etc.

I will keep this brief....

My Dad (he is northern irish)
- He joined the Irish Rangers in 1972 I believe
- He then joined the Royal Engineers around 1976 as a Lance Corporal
- He became a Bomb Disposal engineer and worked within Northern Ireland during the troubles
- Many stories of deactivating live devices mostly in Northern Ireland and patrolling - very interesting with this strong northern irish accent
- He tells stories of dealing with explosives on the Shankill Road, Falls Road and Ardougne
- Also served in Zimbabwe
- Reached WO1
- Left after 24 years - after extending by 2 years
- We lived in: (some before I was born)
----- Warminster
----- Iserlohn
----- Tidworth
----- Osnabuck
----- Farnborough
----- Antrim
----- Omagh
----- Naumburg
----- Chattenden, Kent
----- Hameln
- Joined the Police for 16 years
- Retired and did some voluntary work until he became ill very suddenly
- He was a very good footballer - not pro but just got his "colours" as a result (I think that's what he said but that may not be right)

Can you help me by:

- Where did the Irish Rangers go or serve, what did they do - this will trigger him telling me a story
- Where did the Royal Engineers serve and go - same as above
----- Such as deployments, conflicts
----- Training centres or areas
----- Names of places that will make him go "Oh yes, this happened...."
- Military questions
---- Same as above really, what places, terminology, funny things could I say which would lead on to a conversation

Lastly - forget my suggestions, what would you ask about his service, what places, typical things, complaints, whinges, funny things between 1980-2000s particularly which would spark a conversation.

My Brother and I are desperate to capture this on video before he loses all memory and cognitive function.

Thank you from all of us
Gary
I should have said it's important to know which squadrons he was in, us sappers move around to different squadrons and regiments where as many other units move enmass.
Places that could help with this other than your dad is RE manning and Records
 

Slime

LE
Hi Everyone,

Firstly, I have posted this here for maximum exposure but also as I'm not sure where to put it as there are so many categories! Looks a great forum and nice to see so much discussion. Feel free to move to a better area, I did look but I was quite confused where to go.

Now - why am I posting this
Unfortunately my Dad is 67 and not well at all. He is in hospital and has Parkinson's Disease and the start of Dementia. We think he may have just had a stroke. I have no idea how he will be in a week, two weeks or a month etc.

I will keep this brief....

My Dad (he is northern irish)
- He joined the Irish Rangers in 1972 I believe
- He then joined the Royal Engineers around 1976 as a Lance Corporal
- He became a Bomb Disposal engineer and worked within Northern Ireland during the troubles
- Many stories of deactivating live devices mostly in Northern Ireland and patrolling - very interesting with this strong northern irish accent
- He tells stories of dealing with explosives on the Shankill Road, Falls Road and Ardougne
- Also served in Zimbabwe
- Reached WO1
- Left after 24 years - after extending by 2 years
- We lived in: (some before I was born)
----- Warminster
----- Iserlohn
----- Tidworth
----- Osnabuck
----- Farnborough
----- Antrim
----- Omagh
----- Naumburg
----- Chattenden, Kent
----- Hameln
- Joined the Police for 16 years
- Retired and did some voluntary work until he became ill very suddenly
- He was a very good footballer - not pro but just got his "colours" as a result (I think that's what he said but that may not be right)

Can you help me by:

- Where did the Irish Rangers go or serve, what did they do - this will trigger him telling me a story
- Where did the Royal Engineers serve and go - same as above
----- Such as deployments, conflicts
----- Training centres or areas
----- Names of places that will make him go "Oh yes, this happened...."
- Military questions
---- Same as above really, what places, terminology, funny things could I say which would lead on to a conversation

Lastly - forget my suggestions, what would you ask about his service, what places, typical things, complaints, whinges, funny things between 1980-2000s particularly which would spark a conversation.

My Brother and I are desperate to capture this on video before he loses all memory and cognitive function.

Thank you from all of us
Gary

Apologies if this is obvious but……
Consider making a ‘memories book’ that contains he story of your dad’s life, his family and the names of family members + plus who those people are in relation to your dad. Adding any pets or favourite cars etc is also a good thing.

Add as many photos as you can, and add clear and simple descriptions below those photos.

The book can have two purposes. It can be left with your dad, and the photo can jog vivid memories now and again, but can be useful reminders on who family members are once or if the dementia gets worse.

A second function of such a book is so care/medical staff can look through it, this can help them to see your dad as a real person, who has led a full life rather than perhaps the dementia patient they might only ‘know’ from now onwards.

There is a Dimentia thread on this site under an Alzheimer’s tag.
Best of luck in dealing with this ‘git‘ of a disease :)
 
Ask him if he was with 28(ambitious)Amphibious Engr Regt or 35 when he was in Hameln.

Either way he’ll have visited George’s bar and restaurant opposite Gordon Bks.

You’ll have him spinning dits before you know it.
 

Brooker

Old-Salt
Apologies if this is obvious but……
Consider making a ‘memories book’ that contains he story of your dad’s life, his family and the names of family members + plus who those people are in relation to your dad. Adding any pets or favourite cars etc is also a good thing.

Add as many photos as you can, and add clear and simple descriptions below those photos.

The book can have two purposes. It can be left with your dad, and the photo can jog vivid memories now and again, but can be useful reminders on who family members are once or if the dementia gets worse.

A second function of such a book is so care/medical staff can look through it, this can help them to see your dad as a real person, who has led a full life rather than perhaps the dementia patient they might only ‘know’ from now onwards.

There is a Dimentia thread on this site under an Alzheimer’s tag.
Best of luck in dealing with this ‘git‘ of a disease :)

Brilliant idea, there's also a stack of evidence about rooms etc being decorated as they would have been when people were in their 30's 40's. and make those photos big so they are easy to see.
A comment from my mum last year who had dementia and in our daily talk/reminder of who she was and who I was,
"I don't remember your name, but I know I love you" Man I blubbed at that!
 

CharleyBourne

War Hero
Book Reviewer
Apologies if this is obvious but……
Consider making a ‘memories book’ that contains he story of your dad’s life, his family and the names of family members + plus who those people are in relation to your dad. Adding any pets or favourite cars etc is also a good thing.

Add as many photos as you can, and add clear and simple descriptions below those photos.

The book can have two purposes. It can be left with your dad, and the photo can jog vivid memories now and again, but can be useful reminders on who family members are once or if the dementia gets worse.

A second function of such a book is so care/medical staff can look through it, this can help them to see your dad as a real person, who has led a full life rather than perhaps the dementia patient they might only ‘know’ from now onwards.

There is a Dimentia thread on this site under an Alzheimer’s tag.
Best of luck in dealing with this ‘git‘ of a disease :)
My dad had vascular dementia and 'er indoors made a book of his life using I think the Aldi photo thing which I don't think still exists but there are similar things out there. It is a treasured possession now that my Dad is no longer with us and is something we can hand onto our son who was very young when his grandad died and sadly never knew my Mum. The staff in the care home were grateful for it as it gave them a connection with my Dad although I'm not sure how much of it he took on board due to his condition.

'er indoors makes them regularly, for example when we had a nice holiday abroad, when one of the dogs passes away or other significant events in our lives. Like most people we probably have thousands of photos on our phones which we never look at so these books are a nice way of remembering people and events in the same way that when I was a kid we had photograph albums (gone the same way as encyclopedias).
 
When was he in Omagh? If his time overlaps Nov 74 - May 76, pm me his details and I'll pass them to the hidden 15/19H Facebook group where I know at least one friend worked with ATO.
 

CharleyBourne

War Hero
Book Reviewer
By the way, my neighbour and friend was RE and served in Omagh as a Search Advisor if that's the correct term 1976 or 1977. He alternated between armoured engineers in Germany and airfield repair in Waterbeach(?). Possible they knew each other. I'll probably see him later today and will ask him if he remembers your Dad from the description ie. Northern Irish.

All the best.
 
There were two battalions of Rangers in 72/76. If you know which one he was I can get you a list of where they were in that period.
 

CharleyBourne

War Hero
Book Reviewer
"British Army Units Since 1945There were two battalions of Rangers in 72/76. If you know which one he was I can get you a list of where they were in that period.
Apolgies if this is the source that you are already using but the website "British Army Units Since 1945" is often quoted on here as being pretty reliable regarding unit locations. Not 100 per cent but close.
 
Hi Everyone,

Firstly, I have posted this here for maximum exposure but also as I'm not sure where to put it as there are so many categories! Looks a great forum and nice to see so much discussion. Feel free to move to a better area, I did look but I was quite confused where to go.

Now - why am I posting this
Unfortunately my Dad is 67 and not well at all. He is in hospital and has Parkinson's Disease and the start of Dementia. We think he may have just had a stroke. I have no idea how he will be in a week, two weeks or a month etc.

I will keep this brief....

My Dad (he is northern irish)
- He joined the Irish Rangers in 1972 I believe
- He then joined the Royal Engineers around 1976 as a Lance Corporal
- He became a Bomb Disposal engineer and worked within Northern Ireland during the troubles
- Many stories of deactivating live devices mostly in Northern Ireland and patrolling - very interesting with this strong northern irish accent
- He tells stories of dealing with explosives on the Shankill Road, Falls Road and Ardougne
- Also served in Zimbabwe
- Reached WO1
- Left after 24 years - after extending by 2 years
- We lived in: (some before I was born)
----- Warminster
----- Iserlohn
----- Tidworth
----- Osnabuck
----- Farnborough
----- Antrim
----- Omagh
----- Naumburg
----- Chattenden, Kent
----- Hameln
- Joined the Police for 16 years
- Retired and did some voluntary work until he became ill very suddenly
- He was a very good footballer - not pro but just got his "colours" as a result (I think that's what he said but that may not be right)

Can you help me by:

- Where did the Irish Rangers go or serve, what did they do - this will trigger him telling me a story
- Where did the Royal Engineers serve and go - same as above
----- Such as deployments, conflicts
----- Training centres or areas
----- Names of places that will make him go "Oh yes, this happened...."
- Military questions
---- Same as above really, what places, terminology, funny things could I say which would lead on to a conversation

Lastly - forget my suggestions, what would you ask about his service, what places, typical things, complaints, whinges, funny things between 1980-2000s particularly which would spark a conversation.

My Brother and I are desperate to capture this on video before he loses all memory and cognitive function.

Thank you from all of us
Gary

You probably mean Nienburg where I did my first promotion cadre, rather than Naumburg which would have been on the bad guys side of the Wall back then.
If his surname starts with B ( long shot this ) I had two mates from NornIron who were both Search Team specialists.
 

Brooker

Old-Salt
You probably mean Nienburg where I did my first promotion cadre, rather than Naumburg which would have been on the bad guys side of the Wall back then.
If his surname starts with B ( long shot this ) I had two mates from NornIron who were both Search Team specialists.

And long live Dog Squadron hey :)
 
Brilliant idea, there's also a stack of evidence about rooms etc being decorated as they would have been when people were in their 30's 40's. and make those photos big so they are easy to see.
A comment from my mum last year who had dementia and in our daily talk/reminder of who she was and who I was,
"I don't remember your name, but I know I love you" Man I blubbed at that!
I did just reading that...
 
Hi Everyone,

Firstly, I have posted this here for maximum exposure but also as I'm not sure where to put it as there are so many categories! Looks a great forum and nice to see so much discussion. Feel free to move to a better area, I did look but I was quite confused where to go.

Now - why am I posting this
Unfortunately my Dad is 67 and not well at all. He is in hospital and has Parkinson's Disease and the start of Dementia. We think he may have just had a stroke. I have no idea how he will be in a week, two weeks or a month etc.

I will keep this brief....

My Dad (he is northern irish)
- He joined the Irish Rangers in 1972 I believe
- He then joined the Royal Engineers around 1976 as a Lance Corporal
- He became a Bomb Disposal engineer and worked within Northern Ireland during the troubles
- Many stories of deactivating live devices mostly in Northern Ireland and patrolling - very interesting with this strong northern irish accent
- He tells stories of dealing with explosives on the Shankill Road, Falls Road and Ardougne
- Also served in Zimbabwe
- Reached WO1
- Left after 24 years - after extending by 2 years
- We lived in: (some before I was born)
----- Warminster
----- Iserlohn
----- Tidworth
----- Osnabuck
----- Farnborough
----- Antrim
----- Omagh
----- Naumburg
----- Chattenden, Kent
----- Hameln
- Joined the Police for 16 years
- Retired and did some voluntary work until he became ill very suddenly
- He was a very good footballer - not pro but just got his "colours" as a result (I think that's what he said but that may not be right)

Can you help me by:

- Where did the Irish Rangers go or serve, what did they do - this will trigger him telling me a story
- Where did the Royal Engineers serve and go - same as above
----- Such as deployments, conflicts
----- Training centres or areas
----- Names of places that will make him go "Oh yes, this happened...."
- Military questions
---- Same as above really, what places, terminology, funny things could I say which would lead on to a conversation

Lastly - forget my suggestions, what would you ask about his service, what places, typical things, complaints, whinges, funny things between 1980-2000s particularly which would spark a conversation.

My Brother and I are desperate to capture this on video before he loses all memory and cognitive function.

Thank you from all of us
Gary

2 Rangers were resident Infantry battalion Episkopi 1975 and 1 Rangers were deployed to UNFICYP 76 and 77.. Rangers were also deployed to the firemans strike in 1977 where 2 of them was tragically killed when their "Goddess" crashed.
 
If he was 33 EOD as I suspect, we were based at Lodge Hill (Chattenden) before moving to Wimbish in 1994. Please get in touch with the REABD Branch as I am sure a few of our older members would have served with him.
 
2 Rangers were resident Infantry battalion Episkopi 1975 and 1 Rangers were deployed to UNFICYP 76 and 77.. Rangers were also deployed to the firemans strike in 1977 where 2 of them was tragically killed when their "Goddess" crashed.
Ranger William Best also murdered during this period while home on leave. RIP.
 

chimera

LE
Moderator
Hi Everyone,

Firstly, I have posted this here for maximum exposure but also as I'm not sure where to put it as there are so many categories! Looks a great forum and nice to see so much discussion. Feel free to move to a better area, I did look but I was quite confused where to go.

Now - why am I posting this
Unfortunately my Dad is 67 and not well at all. He is in hospital and has Parkinson's Disease and the start of Dementia. We think he may have just had a stroke. I have no idea how he will be in a week, two weeks or a month etc.

I will keep this brief....

My Dad (he is northern irish)
- He joined the Irish Rangers in 1972 I believe
- He then joined the Royal Engineers around 1976 as a Lance Corporal
- He became a Bomb Disposal engineer and worked within Northern Ireland during the troubles
- Many stories of deactivating live devices mostly in Northern Ireland and patrolling - very interesting with this strong northern irish accent
- He tells stories of dealing with explosives on the Shankill Road, Falls Road and Ardougne
- Also served in Zimbabwe
- Reached WO1
- Left after 24 years - after extending by 2 years
- We lived in: (some before I was born)
----- Warminster
----- Iserlohn 26 Engr Regt
----- Tidworth 22 Engr Regt
----- Osnabuck 23 or 25 Engr Regt?
----- Farnborough 3 Trg Regt
----- Antrim 33 Indep Fd Sqn or 25 Engr Regt depending on date
----- Omagh
----- Naumburg 21 Engr Regt
----- Chattenden, Kent Could be 33 EOD Regt or Defence EOD School
----- Hameln 35 Engr Regt or 28 Engr Regt
- Joined the Police for 16 years
- Retired and did some voluntary work until he became ill very suddenly
- He was a very good footballer - not pro but just got his "colours" as a result (I think that's what he said but that may not be right)

Can you help me by:

- Where did the Irish Rangers go or serve, what did they do - this will trigger him telling me a story
- Where did the Royal Engineers serve and go - same as above
----- Such as deployments, conflicts
----- Training centres or areas
----- Names of places that will make him go "Oh yes, this happened...."
- Military questions
---- Same as above really, what places, terminology, funny things could I say which would lead on to a conversation

Lastly - forget my suggestions, what would you ask about his service, what places, typical things, complaints, whinges, funny things between 1980-2000s particularly which would spark a conversation.

My Brother and I are desperate to capture this on video before he loses all memory and cognitive function.

Thank you from all of us
Gary
I have put in some possibe units in red against those places, but over the past 30 years or so Sapper units have moved and reformed. PM when you think he was in Antrim.
 

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