Please enlighten me

#1
Walking round town I saw an adavert in a shop window for SAS Survival Training.

Now I'm not going to get into Walt bashing, I don't know who runs the courses, or anything about what they teach.

It does however say on the page that you can learn basic survival, fire lighting, shelter building and navigating WITH or WITHOUT maps.

Maybe I'm being a bit dim but how can you navigate successfully with out a map? If you know were you are, and you know were you want to go, and you already know how to get there, surly thats just memory.

I'm not having a go, I just thought maybe I'm missing a trick.
 

Alsacien

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#2
SAS issue DPM coloured bullet proof Garmin GPS :?

Or use of stars, sun, direction finding by shadows, etc.............
 
#4
bobath said:
It does however say on the page that you can learn basic survival, fire lighting, shelter building and navigating WITH or WITHOUT maps.

Maybe I'm being a bit dim but how can you navigate successfully with out a map? If you know were you are, and you know were you want to go, and you already know how to get there, surly thats just memory.
I'm assuming this isn't a wah but there is such a thing as astro-navigation you know!
 
#5
Yes, I know that, but that would be navigateing without a fecking COMPASS!

Its no bloody good finding north if you have no idea where you are, or the direction of your intended destination, is it?

It's not a wha no. I have ny doubts but don't want to go shouting about if there is a resonable explanation.
 
#6
Aso use of sketch map, survival navigation the sort of things you see fat ray mears doing on sky!
 
#7
The Sun only rises and sets in one direction in this Hemisphere.
 
#8
PartTimePongo said:
The Sun only rises and sets in one direction in this Hemisphere.
Same in the other hemisphere too surely? Unless the planet turns in a different direction down there? (wouldn't be surprised...)

Sorry, have I just been wah'ed?
 

Alsacien

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#10
bobath said:
Its no bloody good finding north if you have no idea where you are, or the direction of your intended destination, is it?
If you dont know where you are, or where you are going then even a map probably would not help.....
 
#12
You can match the map to the ground though, and thats a start.
I'm not taking the pish, it just stood out as an odd thing to put on an advert. Maybe its just something that only "They" can do.
 
#13
I think you're perhaps getting lost in the details.
"You are at point A on this hill. Your objective is to get to point B, a dam approximately 3 miles to the East, using only the gradient of the land, the moss on the trees and the position of the sun/stars. Off you go." Crap example but I'm surely that's what it meant?


Edited because I sounded like a bit of an arrse first time round. :D
 

Alsacien

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#14
I think you will find it refers to sketch maps and orientation with sun/stars/shadows.

So I take it you signed up for the course 8O
 
#15
I found my way into work this morning without a map or compass. Made it home from the pub last night as well, but I don't remember much of that.

Maps are useful tools, but so are the intelligent use of check features, stop features etc.

PB
 
#16
Dam right I did. A week in the woods with Pandy MacStab, OC 49 Para Pathfinders? Wouldn't miss it.

You start of at point A, a hill, and need to get to point B, a forrest.

Crack on.
 
#17
_LC_ said:
save your money

Boy Scouts of America : The Official Handbook for Boys (Reprint of Original 1911 Edition) (Paperback)
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1557094411/?tag=armrumser-20
I'm not having that on a BRITISH website.

The original and STILL the best!

Scouting for Boys: A Handbook for Instruction in Good Citizenship by Robert Baden-Powell:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss...R+BOYS&Go.x=10&Go.y=14&Go=Go&tag=armrumser-21

(Note: In 1902 the title wasn't even slightly gay !)
 

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