Please Advise! 29 or 7RHA??

Discussion in 'Gunners' started by geoffgb, Nov 26, 2007.

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  1. I am currently in the process of hopefully gaining a place at Sandhurst, and am looking to join the Royal Artillery after my commissioning course.
    I am very interested in joining 29 or 7 RHA, and I have 10 questions about these two:

    1) which course is more of a challange? the AACC or P-Company?
    2) how long are the two courses?
    3) what are the chances of me getting a place on either of the two straight out of YO training?
    4) is there a alot of infantry training on either course?
    5) which one would improve my field and infantry skills the most?
    6) which one is deemed the most impressive by neutral parties? (i.e. none lidded personal and top brass)
    7)do you get extra pay for completing the AACC like you do for gaining your wings?
    8)which regiment gets the best frequency of operations?
    9)are the guys of sphinx special ops battery mainly made up of former AACC and P-company successfull gunners?
    10)which one of the parent regiments (i.e. the Royal Marines and the Parachute Reg) except you into their 'brotherhood' of either the green or maroon lidded the best?

    thankyou for your time in answering these Q's for me.
     
  2. just concentrate on getting through the factory...worry about this afterwards...29 would be my choice (excellent rep)
     
  3. You listed the following questions

    1) which course is more of a challange? the AACC or P-Company?

    Both bloody hard
    2) how long are the two courses?
    Not sure
    3) what are the chances of me getting a place on either of the two straight out of YO training?
    Limited you sound a bit too gung ho for my liking
    4) is there a alot of infantry training on either course?
    Bits If you are that keen on the infantry go and join them

    5) which one would improve my field and infantry skills the most?
    See answer 4
    6) which one is deemed the most impressive by neutral parties? (i.e. none lidded personal and top brass)
    You sad little man start on with a career. You are too young to be a thrusting git yet.

    7)do you get extra pay for completing the AACC like you do for gaining your wings?

    8)which regiment gets the best frequency of operations?
    On a par
    9)are the guys of sphinx special ops battery mainly made up of former AACC and P-company successfull gunners?
    Not only those but other very highly motivated and professional soldiers who show more skills in their little finger than most in 7 RHA.
    10)which one of the parent regiments (i.e. the Royal Marines and the Parachute Reg) except you into their 'brotherhood' of either the green or maroon lidded the best?

    This is all too walty really you must be taking the piss.

    It is a WAH isn't it.

    If not.
    ONLY join 7 RHA if you are keen on sport. Their gunnery on the GP sucks and always has. Ask any para and they will tell you - in private that they would rather have anyone supporting them than 7 RHA the OPs are good though. 29 is alltogether a better bunch at gunnery.

    I now prepare for incoming.
     
  4. geoff gb. While not entirely helpful, I would take on board some of Resugam's thinly veiled points...

    If this helps:

    1) Both a challenge, differently so. There are other threads about the differences, so read them.

    2) P-Coy is about 4 weeks I think, AACC is 8 weeks, plus pre-CC ("beat-up") to prepare you.

    3) this depends on a) how many subbies they need and b) how many of your muckers wanna go there too - my course of 15, 3 were women (and so not interested, although technically allowed), which left 12. 3 wanted 29 Regt, 3 wanted 7 (half the course). 2 got 29, 1 got 20 Bty (no longer exists) and 2 got 7 RHA. If all of your course are as keen (? - or dillusional) as you, then there may be stiff competition and you will be placed according to the Senior Instructor's view on where you will best fit in.

    4) Cdo course prepares you for Cdo support roles - it takes all arms and has to include an element of "infantry" type skills to prepare you for Cdo support roles. However, Sandhurst is ALL infantry skills and so you wont need much topping up direct from the Factory to YOs to AACC if you get there...as pointed out, if you want infantry skills, go infantry.

    5) the AACC will give you different field skills and test your stamina and endrance until your muscles scream, P-coy will thrash you til your eyes bleed.

    6) stupid question. It is a luck of the draw posting, shows you wanted to attempt something different and people may ask why you have cdo dagger later in life. I doubt it changes the price of fishj on an OJAR (annual report) vs someone from a "normal Regiment". In fact, if you are looking to go to a regiment to be viewed as "special" then dont bother - "special" is one step away from "arrogant knobber".

    7) no. you only get extra pay for your wings if you are in a parachute Regt too and I dont know all the details surrouding that, but def no pay for Cdo quals

    8) both away lots, but aren't we all? In theory, it used to be 29, as they went more often in support of Cdos. now it is the same anywhere pretty much.

    9) No, 4/73 Bty is all arms applicable, many in the Gunners may go from 7 or 29 there for more challenge, many come from other areas. 148 Bty is another specialised unit within 29 Cdo. Dont get too far ahead of yourself with your posting aspirations though...I did know a fellow officer who was lucky enough to do 7, then 4.73 and then 7 as a FOO, but usually they will move you around. 4/73 is a different job for officers than operators though, but you need to ask someone who has done it, same for 148.

    10) probably Marines, as 7 are more Para than the Paras (similar for most support Regts apparently), but 16 AABde is all in one location now and you will see each other more. As for mixing with your supported arm, you might not get any choice - but you wont be in 2 paras mess every night trying to be one of them.

    You do sound in danger of being at worst slightly waltish, at best desperately keen, and if I may say so, similar in tone to some of the potential soldiers who have their "dream" career mapped out from careers office, through basic, 1 year in unit and onto selection for them...reality may take hold and I wouldnt get too far ahead in lining out your career in specialised units before crossing the first, second and thir hurdles (AOSB, Sandhurst and YOs).

    If you have chosen the Gunners (for whatever reason), do not necessarily look to fulfil other aspirations (dreams of the next Bravo Two Zero) by collecting as many badges as possible - you may become disappointed. Plenty of people join all cap badges and do not go onto wings, daggers, other coloured head-dress. Similarly other do go onto these things after trying other stuff. I personally have known guys who wished that they did the "special" stuff early and some who wished they had done "normal" stuff first.

    Also, they are both "just" other worthwhile Regiments in the Royal Regiment and you shouldnt join the RA just to take a perceived easy route to Para/Cdo/Specialised units - your post has the slight tone of someone who wants to be Para or Marine, but has chosen to come to the RA and is now trying to persuade himself that that isn't a crappy option by collecting badges.

    If however, you are just extremely keen and inquisitive, good luck to you and I hope that I have been of some help.
     
  5. No you dont get paid extra for being commando trained

    29 have been involved in every major conflict that British forces have fought to some degree since the Falklands & Para havent

    AACC is menatlly more challenging than P company buts its more of a teaching course. P Company when i did it in 90 was just a thrashing but more physically intense so felt harder

    I think you have to ralise that in the two regts you have blokes of similair abilities and qualiteis so if you go for either regt you wont be disappointed

    i dont know much about 4/73 but they seemed to be men without a mission when i was serving through no fault of their own but they came away with 148 Bty a few times and we were always impressed with their skill level. Wellyhead will be able to give you a brief about them

    if i was to choose between the two then i would go 29 again its a fabulous regt and based in one of the best piss up towns in the country.