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Unknown_Quantity

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#1
OTC should be able to volenteer for mobilisation if they can pass all ITD's.  Discuss.
 
#3
If you're that desperate to go, join the TA.
 
#4
OTC should be able to volenteer for mobilisation if they can pass all ITD's.  Discuss.
Provided they have passed MTQ 2, and completed all the madatory pre deployment training criteria, then logically I can think of no reason whilst they should not deploy and be used in a role befitting their level of training.

The main problems are the length of the time they are available for use in theatre due to the need to return to continue with their studies, and the limited roles they could be used for.

I would have that the TA option has greater utility and flexibility.
 

Unknown_Quantity

War Hero
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#5
Not OTC at the moment, I just thought the board here was a little quiet.

Many of the OTC bods would be unsuited as YOs but could do some of the lesser jobs required to be done by some mobilised TA guys - I heard that some joined the TA and after a couple of training nights they got their brown envelope That puts their skills at a minimum but Glasgow (HA!!!!!) still sees them as useful.
 
#6
I was in the UOTC during gulf war one and the matter was discussed quite frequently.

It was generally felt that O/cdts were far below the "Off the shelf standard" for mobilisation but that an accelerated commissioning course would make the majority usefull as YO's.

Many students had specialist skills such as languagues and regional knowledge or medical skills that could be used in some way.

Failing that there was no reason why we could not do the sort of key point  security duty that the TA did.

I looked into what would happen to my studies if i was mobilised. There was an old regualtion allowing the board of examiners the ability to credit active service towards an unclassified degree.  So no real problem there either.

At the time many were willing but only a small select few took part on the edges of the operation and I only know of one person who made it to Daharan (and he came home on the next flight)

Trotsky
 
#7
Help discussion happening on me board. At a loss to what to do.

Otc soldiers have it far too easy and would not do well when mobilised. A lot are there just for the pay.

Oh and Unknown, do you spell volunteer like that on your invitations to scotland?  ;D
 

Unknown_Quantity

War Hero
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#8
eye spel as me wonts.   ;D

Time to get a new picture Nite
 
#9
Cannot get the one i want. Oh i need a hand spreading the good news about arrse to other uotc's. Any ideas??

Can get to three, but there are more out there. Any current members please pm me.
 
#13
Oh i need a hand spreading the good news about arrse to other uotc's. Any ideas??
Bring all the good looking totty from every OTC in the country to the Army v Navy on the 3rd May, and Bad CO, Bow_man, CGS, and I will do the rest  ;)
 
#15
Will think on. Cheers MSR for that

Oh and this is not what i had in mind. Will people not use the board for military gurning competitions. Put that sort of stuff into the PT board.  ;D
 
#16
The easy remedy for that would be to put loads of pictures of the glorious OTC totty on here....
 
#17
Back to thread !

In 1982 I was in my 3rd year of a langauges degree and had recently come back from Spain with pretty fluent Spanish.  I volunteered to go down South with the Task Force, having checked with the University and got it in writing I could disappear and what I would have to do to catch up.

My OTC Adjutant obviously had not come up against this before and told me the Regulars had reviewed my application but had more than enough Spanish linguists already.  

Several years later I was talking to someone from Green Slime who was involved in trying desperately to get Spanish speakers for the Falklands, as there was a very limited number indeed actually deployed who spoke at the level I did.

Obviously my application made it as far as the Adjt's bin.....

Not bitter or twisted though !
 
#18
        Having worked with otc guys on several  ta exercises .I found the majority to be nice guys but with
an over inflated belief in their own military abilities and or knowledge . Apart from language skills  undergradutes have no special skills i can see  the army
needing . and there only use would on active service
is give the stabs someone to look down on :)
 
L

LE_OC

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#19
Woody,

I was spammed to assist an OTC during field training in the early eighties. Agree with your views on their inflated idea of their ability (circa 1983 - much improved now, I hope). Had an absolute shag-fest though.

OTC do grow up and they do improve - vastly - I have an ex Liverpool OTC Pl comd and I'm very happy with him

... and I await all those ex OTC senior officer ARRSEs to respond.
 
#20
The problem with the OTC is that it is a closeted world that lacks a "big picture" view. In comparison with other cadets the military skills of some do shine, and some OTCs have exceptionally good training programmes and the resources to back them up. The difference is that while a 3rd yr JUO or OCdt in the Inf Sub-unit has better Inf skills that his counterpart in the RLC Sub-unit, it is no match for somone who has just left Warminster. Where you really notice this is when a TA Troopies cse comes through packed full of OCdts from OTCs, they are way behind their counterparts who have come through the mainstream TA commissioning route.

It is only when they leave the OTC and get a taste of the big bad world that they realise that they aren't as skillesd or experienced as they thought they were, and that is the value of an attachment into a TA unit. I think it would be a vluable exercise to make all OTC Ocdts who hold cmmd appointments in their 2rd year to do an attachment to either a TA or reg unit to put some perspective on their level of ability.
 

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