Plastic Bags?

#1
To be charged for? [Wales has paid for themfor 18 months] Or banned completely?

Why not make them out of paper like the Americans? Totally disposible etc etc....
 

BiscuitsAB

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#2
ban the *******. When I was in BAOR (swing the lamp etc) the german shops would pile up their empty boxes and cartons to use. Went to ALDI yesterday and as there weren't any out I asked if I could have a box, help yourself they said.

BFO heavy duty brown paper bags are 100% better than plastic carriers, but re-purposing a cardboard box is better yet. And if you take a bit of time and effort after you've unloaded your shopping your can rip the cardboard into really small pieces or turn it into mush in a bin of water and add it to your compost.
 
#3
Ban them as they are a blight on the countryside, especially the ones that have been dual roled to also pick up dog faeces, knotted and casually flung into bushes.
 

TheresaMay

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DirtyBAT
#6
I remember as a kid my mum sent me and my sister down the shops for some groceries. The shopkeeper put everything except the loaf of bread in a small box that my sister carried, and I carried the loaf by the plastic opening at the top (shortly after removing the old clip we used to collect for our bicycle brake lines).

Swinging the bread around seemed like a good idea at the time, and it wasn't long before I figured it'd be a better idea to beat my sister with it instead. We were halfway across the main road when the final blow burst the bag and slices of bread went everywhere, soon to be mutilated by the passing cars.

I can't help thinking if she'd been carrying the bread, the box wouldn't have buckled under the same pressure from twatting her over the head with it.

So in my opinion: Boxes 1 - 0 Plastic Bags
 

Cutaway

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#7
I dunno, they make nice decorations on the Dannet tape in Afghanistan, and where would African & South-East Asian millinery be without them ?

 
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#8
To be charged for? [Wales has paid for themfor 18 months] Or banned completely?

Why not make them out of paper like the Americans? Totally disposible etc etc....
NI has implemented a 5p bag tax as of yesterday... no problem with that whatsoever, but apparently the tax still applies to biodegradable paper bags which makes me suspicious that although it's meant to be there to help the environment, it's also just a sly revenue raising exercise and they don't want shops to be able to get round it by making bags from paper.

BBC News - Northern Ireland's new five-pence carrier bag tax
 
#10
Paper bags and boxes are fine if you are only moving your shopping from the trolley to the boot of your car. If you have to walk any kind of distance they don't work. Yes, palstic bags do a fair job of amputating your fingers but they do the job.
Better would be to utilise a bio-degradable plastic. It would only last about 90 days in land-fill before there was nothing left. Bags full of dog-shit would go even faster. Hopefully in the pockets of the dog owners.
 
#11
Totally disposible etc etc....
The problem in the UK is that they think plastic ones are totally disposable.

I would say charge for them but that won't solve the problem since people will just throw them in hedgerows believing they've paid twice for them to be picked up, if people in the UK can't accept recycling and litter is their responsibility then ban them.


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#13
NI has implemented a 5p bag tax as of yesterday... no problem with that whatsoever, but apparently the tax still applies to biodegradable paper bags which makes me suspicious that although it's meant to be there to help the environment, it's also just a sly revenue raising exercise and they don't want shops to be able to get round it by making bags from paper.

BBC News - Northern Ireland's new five-pence carrier bag tax
Yeah they charge 5p for them here but it goes to charity..
 
#14
Charging doesn't work because even on an enormous shopping trip requiring 25 bags, the additional fee is going to be... £1. If it were £25, people might think twice.

That said, as the fault is with people rather than the bags themselves, I suggest a better idea would be to try and demonise certain types of behaviour. Look at drink driving - once something that a lot of people did, and most turned a blind eye to. Now something that very few would admit publicly.
 
#16
Charging doesn't work because even on an enormous shopping trip requiring 25 bags, the additional fee is going to be... £1. If it were £25, people might think twice.

That said, as the fault is with people rather than the bags themselves, I suggest a better idea would be to try and demonise certain types of behaviour. Look at drink driving - once something that a lot of people did, and most turned a blind eye to. Now something that very few would admit publicly.
Been a long time since I was able to afford a 25 bag shop!
 
#17
Paper bags are fine until you put chilled goods in them, at which point the condensation soaks the bag and it falls apart.
 
#19
Wales brought in a 5p charge in 2011, you'll be amazed how charging does make a difference, and you'll ba amazed how much you'll miss the 'free' ones. Picking up dogshit as been said is the most common thing I do with them also use them as gash bags and a million other uses.
Still funny watching perplexed tourists have a paddy when they're told they have to pay for them mind.
 
#20
Wales brought in a 5p charge in 2011, you'll be amazed how charging does make a difference, and you'll ba amazed how much you'll miss the 'free' ones. Picking up dogshit as been said is the most common thing I do with them also use them as gash bags and a million other uses.
Still funny watching perplexed tourists have a paddy when they're told they have to pay for them mind.
Loads of places in England charge. Doesn't seem to have made the slightest bit of difference. I can't say I miss the 'free' ones, and the paid ones appear to work just as well for picking up dogshit, putting rubbish in, etc.
 

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