Pistol / Revolver as Humane Killer on FAC?

#1
I understand after looking at ad`s in the gun mags one can now own a pistol / revolver for humane dispatch if your have stalking on your FAC ?

Ive got an open ticket with stalking on it and was wondering how to apply with out fcuking up the application ?

Also some of the handguns I see advertised have restricted capacity , whats that all about?
 

ugly

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#2
Its a bit of a minefield, being allowed one in law and getting the plod to vary your fac is another thing. I havent bothered as its a mare, getting my 410 pistol was drama enough and I'm still no closer to getting my .17HMR pistol approved either. I do know of one brand spanking new stalker on land restriction who managed it, needless to say it arrived with 3 of the cylinders blocked with resin and he then proceeded to use the damn thing for a primary stalking weapon. Utter ****!
 
#3
I know someone who had, some years ago, but after the handgun ban, a .357 magnum revolver on ticket for 'humane despatch'. Four of the chambers had substantial pins though them so that only the remaining two could be loaded. He brought it to a club range day and we all had a go, which we subsequently learned was a very dubious proceeding indeed and he has kept it to himself since, as far as I know.
 
#4
Its a bit of a minefield, being allowed one in law and getting the plod to vary your fac is another thing. I havent bothered as its a mare, getting my 410 pistol was drama enough and I'm still no closer to getting my .17HMR pistol approved either. I do know of one brand spanking new stalker on land restriction who managed it, needless to say it arrived with 3 of the cylinders blocked with resin and he then proceeded to use the damn thing for a primary stalking weapon. Utter ****!
Jeez, its no wonder the Rozzers are selective if idiots like that are about.
 
#5
One of my old customers had a semi-automatic .32 pistol with a removable 'restricted' magazine. It's like the police had never heard of spare parts availability.

The jammy ****.
 

ugly

LE
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#6
hes not been caught yet!
As for using it at a range, how on earth can you practice safely without disturbing the neighbours?
Perfectly legal just best kept quiet about.
 

ugly

LE
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#7
Where I am the deer managers called to RTAs were told they would be supported in applications for despatch hand cannons but I dont know of too many that have applied yet. I sspect a few have and got them, after all its a county highways and police call out scheme. If they dont have one then the peelers need to do it. Me I prefer a shotgun at the base of the skull or I take the CZ 527 carbine in 7.62 x 39. Does the job!
 
#8
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"But it is restricted officer, I can only load one at a time!"
 
#9
This is yet another case of Plod making up law as they go along. (Do I detect the long arm of ACPO here?)

To answer the question, you just apply for variation. Simples!
 
#11
This is yet another case of Plod making up law as they go along. (Do I detect the long arm of ACPO here?)

To answer the question, you just apply for variation. Simples!
So are they classed as sect 1 or sect 5 ?
 
#13
That's OK anyway because it is "a firearm designed as signalling apparatus".

I had a 1" Very pistol on my FAC as Section One, "as part of a collection."
Strictly speaking it is a flare gun but this one has a grenade cup attached for lobbing Mills bombs at pesky Huns.

Wouldn't fancy trying it out mind.
 
#14
theres a few vets with auto pistols for humane dispatch, .32 autos type thing, limited 2 shot capacity mags though...... cof.

most people who got humane dispatch pistol on their tickets have to settle for the 2 shot revolver, quite often set of blocked chambers or a new 2 hole only cylinder. use can be for hunting for livestock.

....and if your a total f**king idiot of an RFD, you get caught with a humane dispatch revolver with a full 6 shot capacity and get in deep doo-doo.
 

ugly

LE
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#15
Not 100% sure about that, the restrictions are set individually on a case by case basis and a few have no limits stated on their fac at all! The RFD could be legitimately repairing/cleaning or converting to a restriction or even holding an unrestricted weapon legally. Its all about the conditions!
 
#16
Not 100% sure about that, the restrictions are set individually on a case by case basis and a few have no limits stated on their fac at all! The RFD could be legitimately repairing/cleaning or converting to a restriction or even holding an unrestricted weapon legally. Its all about the conditions!
So as usual it is as clear as mud.
 
#17
....and if your a total f**king idiot of an RFD, you get caught with a humane dispatch revolver with a full 6 shot capacity and get in deep doo-doo.
Not really. Section 5 is all about context these days. My collection of pistols and revolver used to be Section 1 but in my possession are now Section 7. If you wanted to use one of my Webleys, for example, to start athletics race it is Section 1. However, if a dealer or an unlicensed individual was to be in possession of them, they are Section 5.

So a dealer can only hold a revolver with Section 5 authority, no matter what its capacity. I find that perfectly clear.
 
#18
Not really. Section 5 is all about context these days. My collection of pistols and revolver used to be Section 1 but in my possession are now Section 7. If you wanted to use one of my Webleys, for example, to start athletics race it is Section 1. However, if a dealer or an unlicensed individual was to be in possession of them, they are Section 5.

So a dealer can only hold a revolver with Section 5 authority, no matter what its capacity. I find that perfectly clear.
From what Ive read not all forces insist on cyl/mag restrictions so in some counties you'd be carrying a sect 5 and in another only sect 1 !
 

ugly

LE
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#19
From what Ive read not all forces insist on cyl/mag restrictions so in some counties you'd be carrying a sect 5 and in another only sect 1 !
True not all forces insist on restrictions but once it is on your FAC as a sect 1 regardless of where you use it it is still a section 1 weapon. Nothing can change that!
 
#20
From what Ive read not all forces insist on cyl/mag restrictions so in some counties you'd be carrying a sect 5 and in another only sect 1 !
I agree with Ugly (and my point on context). If you have a fully functioning revolver on your FAC it is Section 1.

Even if you take it on another force's ground, where they insist on restrictions, it is still Section 1.
 

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