Pirates seize cruise missiles...

#41
As someone said earlier surely convoys would be the way forward, plus real terms of engagement as in shoot, sink without warning, if a boat that has not identified itself comes within oohh say 1nm.
 
#42
Its been suggested before, it wont work as the shipping companies cant waste the days it will take to form up a convoy, it would cost millions a of pounds for every day the ship is late.
 
#43
instinct said:
Its been suggested before, it wont work as the shipping companies cant waste the days it will take to form up a convoy, it would cost millions a of pounds for every day the ship is late.
Surely better than millions of pounds wasted in ransoms plus cargo held up for weeks/months.
 
#44
Question....someone said it would not be too hard to work out how ti use a Cruise Missile...is that right?

I can't see it myself. Even if the missiles came with launcher tubes etc, what about the control and guidence systems , commands to launch etc. Inertial navigation, TERCOM and even sat nav all need specialist kit to programme the missile.

Its not just a case of sticking them in a milk bottle, lighting the touch paper and retiring a safe distance.

There is also the propulsion system to fuel.

Its just a feeling, but the term "Cruise missile" seems to be used for any sub or supersonic missile these days. It more than likely they arre some form of "point and fire" system and NOT what we think of as being a "Cruise".
 
#45
DavidBOC said:
muhandis89 said:
The Sun seems to indicate that RP Grenades are 'thrown!!'' So much for their military expertise!
The term puzzled me but I wonder if the dispatch was translated from another language in which the word for throw is also used for "launch"

I seem to recall that the French verb "jeter" has several meanings but I cannot recall if lauch or shoot is one of them.

Any linguists reading this thread!
"lancer" for a missile-launch and "tirer" for shooting...could just be crap non-military experienced journos. Their political editor should be able to help out, after all he has been up the sharp end!
 
#46
2/51 said:
Question....someone said it would not be too hard to work out how ti use a Cruise Missile...is that right?

I can't see it myself. Even if the missiles came with launcher tubes etc, what about the control and guidence systems , commands to launch etc. Inertial navigation, TERCOM and even sat nav all need specialist kit to programme the missile.

Its not just a case of sticking them in a milk bottle, lighting the touch paper and retiring a safe distance.

There is also the propulsion system to fuel.

Its just a feeling, but the term "Cruise missile" seems to be used for any sub or supersonic missile these days. It more than likely they arre some form of "point and fire" system and NOT what we think of as being a "Cruise".
Countries could backwards engineer the missiles to find out how they work and aid their own missile projects.
 
#48
HectortheInspector said:
. . . .The old method of dealing with this was for offended countries lacking regular Navy ships to hire mercenaries as 'privateers' who were then allowed to roam about and empowered to take action against pirates. If, say Liberia, were to issue 'Letters of marque' to Xe, Sandline and so on, they could happily go pirate bashing and leave us to get on with other things.
To whom do I apply to in Whitehall ??

Or, will it be a case of, having recognised the problem, identified a solution, and volunteered one's services - it is then put out to tender?
 
#49
RCT(V) said:
HectortheInspector said:
. . . .The old method of dealing with this was for offended countries lacking regular Navy ships to hire mercenaries as 'privateers' who were then allowed to roam about and empowered to take action against pirates. If, say Liberia, were to issue 'Letters of marque' to Xe, Sandline and so on, they could happily go pirate bashing and leave us to get on with other things.
To whom do I apply to in Whitehall ??

Or, will it be a case of, having recognised the problem, identified a solution, and volunteered one's services - it is then put out to tender?
Basically, the 'offended party' applies to a government for permission to recover goods to the value from the enemy.If you don't have one, you are yourself a pirate.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_Marque

It looks like we can't issue them because we gave up the right after the Crimean War. It seems the USA still can...
 

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