Pirates seize cruise missiles...

#1
They THREW an RPG at the ship?

By LYNSEY HAYWOOD
and STEVE HAWKES


Published: Today
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PIRATES have seized a cargo ship full of CRUISE MISSILES - and are demanding £2million ransom.
The Somali bandits opened fire on the Al-Mizan as it sailed along the east African coast with the illegal haul.

The gang threw a rocket-propelled grenade at the vessel before clambering on board and seizing control from the crew off Mogadishu in Somalia.



Menace ... bandits operating off Horn of Africa
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They found the missiles - thought to be short-range and medium-range - being carried in contravention of a UN arms embargo.


Military experts do NOT believe the pirates would be able to use them.


Yesterday the vessel was off the Somali town of Garacad. The 18 crew are hostages.



Held ... the Chandlers
Nicholas RazzellNick Davis, of the UK-based Merchant Maritime Warfare Centre, said: "The Al-Mizan is a regular weapons carrier in the Gulf region.


"Various countries' navies track the vessel. The pirates knew there would be weapons on board but they did not know they were missiles."

He added: "We think the ransom will be paid and the ship will be returned. It is not thought to be the big threat to national security we initially believed."

A businessman who hired the ship, which was seized on Sunday, insisted there were no weapons on board, only food and electronic items.


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Issa Abdi Ahmed, one of the pirate gang, confirmed the bandits wanted £2million for the return of the ship and crew.

Speaking via satellite phone, he said: "Fifteen are Indians, two are Pakistanis and one is Somali."

Pirates made millions hijacking ships off the Horn of Africa last year. Western warships are patrolling the region, forcing pirates further afield.

Brits Paul Chandler, 59, and wife Rachel, 55, were kidnapped as they sailed off Tanzania last month. Pirates want a £4.2million ransom for the return of the couple, from Tunbridge Wells, Kent.

Meanwhile, it was revealed yesterday the French navy captured 12 suspected pirates on Thursday.

A frigate guided by a patrol plane seized a ship laden with arms, ammunition and fuel plus two skiffs 650 miles east of Hobyo in Somalia.



Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2729777/Pirates-hijack-cruise-missiles.html#ixzz0WrBXA3xp
 
#6
Fallschirmjager said:
DGSx said:
Meanwhile, it was revealed yesterday the French navy captured 12 suspected pirates on Thursday.
Why are we capturing the fucking dirty scumbags? They should be sent to the bottom of the ocean. Fucking Muslim Somalian scum.
FJ I totally agree

VH
 
#7
VanHelsing said:
Fallschirmjager said:
DGSx said:
Meanwhile, it was revealed yesterday the French navy captured 12 suspected pirates on Thursday.
Why are we capturing the fucking dirty scumbags? They should be sent to the bottom of the ocean. Fucking Muslim Somalian scum.
FJ I totally agree

VH
My bold - Basically any Somailian in a boat
 
#9
Fallschirmjager said:
DGSx said:
Meanwhile, it was revealed yesterday the French navy captured 12 suspected pirates on Thursday.
Why are we capturing the fucking dirty scumbags? They should be sent to the bottom of the ocean. Fucking Muslim Somalian scum.
Seconded. Fcuk the Jolly Roger - it's time we hoisted the Black Flags! :twisted:
 
#10
Time for the Royal Navy to invest in Q-Ships again?



I'm thinking an old looking freighter design (obviously a new build though) with plenty of armour for the crew (as it will get close and dirty) lots of bouyancy inthe hull (just like the old ones) and plenty of drop down hatches and what not.

You could imagine the pirates faces as they wave their AKs about, then they see the Red Duster replaced with the Ensign, just as several Vulcan gatlings rip in to their boat :D

For future proofing, a few hidden GAU-88s and a 105mm light gun or several. A few Milans or similar would complete the mix.

And a boarding party.

The only other alternative, is we put Royal Navy/Royal Marine partys on British Registered freighters, complete with a few GPMG or miniguns to clamp on to the side as needed.
 
#11
If they are indeed short and medium range Cruise Missiles, the real danger is not the Skinnies using them - it's who they sell them on to.

I venture to suggest that Al Queda will have both the money and people with the skills to use Cruise Missile's.
 
#12
With all the millions they've accrued in ransoms, the pirate snakeheads can probably buy bootleg weapons, including cruise missiles, any day they like. As long as they keep getting paid, they'll keep sending their minions to hijack ships no matter what the risks.
 
#13
chocolate_frog said:
Time for the Royal Navy to invest in Q-Ships again?
And what to do about a crew dear boy, where will we find some Matelots who have the balls to pull a trigger instead of standing off with bino's or crying about a lost ipod?
 
#14
Gentlemen,

It's not the capablity or incapablity of the skinnies to use said missiles, but the impact on the cost of Shipping insurance and the knock on costs that said Insurers lump on.

The current danger zone is about 500nm out from the coast line. Watch as insurers insist that ALL merchant shipping heads straight out from the Red Sea for 1,000nm before heading west. That's an extra 3 days or so heading the wrong way before they turn west.

The $120-million oil tanker Sirius Star carrying over $100 million worth of cargo currently requires a $2.2 million insurance premiums for specialty piracy insurance. How much is that going to go up by?
 
#15
CQMS said:
chocolate_frog said:
Time for the Royal Navy to invest in Q-Ships again?
And what to do about a crew dear boy, where will we find some Matelots who have the balls to pull a trigger instead of standing off with bino's or crying about a lost ipod?
Gads, you are correct, sir.

We'll get Sport and Pastime to crew them, and use some Infantry/arty/rac lads to man the guns.

If the job is worth doing well... we'll get the professionals in.
 
#16
Kitmarlowe said:
Gentlemen,

It's not the capablity or incapablity of the skinnies to use said missiles, but the impact on the cost of Shipping insurance and the knock on costs that said Insurers lump on.

The current danger zone is about 500nm out from the coast line. Watch as insurers insist that ALL merchant shipping heads straight out from the Red Sea for 1,000nm before heading west. That's an extra 3 days or so heading the wrong way before they turn west.

The $120-million oil tanker Sirius Star carrying over $100 million worth of cargo currently requires a $2.2 million insurance premiums for specialty piracy insurance. How much is that going to go up by?
Convoys? With a DD/FF and a slack handful of Corvettes and/or patrol craft?
 
#17
What does The Sun mean by 'throwing RPG grenades at the ship?'.Are the Somalis training for the Olympics?
 
#18
Kitmarlowe said:
Gentlemen,

It's not the capablity or incapablity of the skinnies to use said missiles, but the impact on the cost of Shipping insurance and the knock on costs that said Insurers lump on.

The current danger zone is about 500nm out from the coast line. Watch as insurers insist that ALL merchant shipping heads straight out from the Red Sea for 1,000nm before heading west. That's an extra 3 days or so heading the wrong way before they turn west.

The $120-million oil tanker Sirius Star carrying over $100 million worth of cargo currently requires a $2.2 million insurance premiums for specialty piracy insurance. How much is that going to go up by?
"The price of petrol has risen by one penny. Official"
 
#19
Would it be so hard to establish a few bases in the region along the route where the shipping lane becomes vulnerable, one each end?

I'm thinking Oman (closest country I can think of which has a close defence relationship with us) or Saudi (if the Yanks can lean on them as they have previously had troops in their country) to the North, and Seychelles or Maldives to the South and East. Shouldnt be too difficult to conjure up something as to be fair a LOT of countries are pissed off at this and someones going to have some island or an agreement with someone that could be used. At a push, even something like a few oil rigs if it can be sited in those seas.

Then it's just a case of having a few helos and a few platoons of troops from each suitably-concerned nation at each end. Fly out into the shipping lane, drop troops on deck with their own heavy wpns, they guard it until they come out the other end at which point they are lifted off. A few months of this then off to the aforementioned Seychelles for R and R!

If you have an airstrip someplace close you can even have a few MPAs to be able to get to an incident as a sort of aerial QRF, or they could even loiter in areas of specific attack if we can get something like a little SIGINT organisation also going. Depends on how many of the pissed-off countries we can club together and how much we want to collectively spend, but given how many people are majorly hacked off with our rum-downing mainbrace-splicing friends from Eyl, I don't think it would be too difficult to get some sort of consensus on this.

Expect a few interoperability issues with foreign registered vessels needing some interpreters tho, oh, and a rewrite of ROE would be handy also. Could serve a useful training role in cooperating with other countries forces as well as keep the piracy problem at bay.
 
#20
If the report is accurate (?), why on earth were cruise missiles being transported by sea, without military protection, in the most dangerous seaway on the planet? I suspect there is more to this than meets the eye.
 

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