PIRA threat to shot McCarthy killers

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#1
PIRA stated that they were prepared to slot McCarthy's murderers. Nowt like a fair trial eh?

Just as well that they didn't decommission then eh?......or they would have to stab them to death.


Novel approach to justice all the same.........hopefully it'll catch on.
 
#3
forniup said:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050308/325/fdy4i.html

i thought it was very kind of them! as we all know they are Catholics so they must have been reading the bit that said "EYE FOR AN EYE". Must have skipped over the two wrongs thingy!

Hmmmm......not altogether sure about that part. Sinn Féin/PIRA are driven by a strand of Marxist ideology - they aim for a 32 county socialist Irish republic. That said, they'll drape themselves in rosaries if there is any publicity in it, but religious they most certainly are not - their only god is republicanism.
 
#4
forniup said:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050308/325/fdy4i.html

i thought it was very kind of them! as we all know they are Catholics so they must have been reading the bit that said "EYE FOR AN EYE". Must have skipped over the two wrongs thingy!
Well that's what Catholics always think don't they. Not that something's wrong so don't do it, but it's wrong, do it anyway and pray for forgivness afterwards. A few 'Hail Marys' and everything's fine :?
 
#5
Plant-Pilot said:
forniup said:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050308/325/fdy4i.html

i thought it was very kind of them! as we all know they are Catholics so they must have been reading the bit that said "EYE FOR AN EYE". Must have skipped over the two wrongs thingy!
Well that's what Catholics always think don't they. Not that something's wrong so don't do it, but it's wrong, do it anyway and pray for forgivness afterwards. A few 'Hail Marys' and everything's fine :?
And you know this because...? Nothing like an inaccurate, blinkered sweeping statement to set the Bigot-o-meter buzzing.
 
#6
gallowglass said:
And you know this because...? Nothing like an inaccurate, blinkered sweeping statement to set the Bigot-o-meter buzzing.
Okay, agreed. Bad use of a sweeping statement......

Delete "Well that's what Catholics always think don't they"

Insert "Well that's the attitude of 99% of the catholics I know."
 

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#8
petermtm said:
I thought the Marxist wing of the IRA died with the Worker's Party and Official IRA back in the seventies?
That's right.
Not forgetting the other gem, "there is NO link between Sinn Fein and PIRA."
 
#9
Sorry but watching the oik from Sien Fien on C4 News this evening, he and no doubt the whole of the IRA/S.F organisation filaed to dismiss or even comdem the statement "We will Kill them if asked by the dead mans family".

As another poster wrote "It's good that they didn't Disarm then"

Fcuk them. anyone who works for, and lets all agree that Adams et al do, the IRA should be held accountable.

JJ
 
#10
Y'ever want an exercise in logistics watch the PIRA and co during one of their "festivals".

Who else could get "Boston Irish", Palestinians and Native American Rights activists on the same podium on the same day without bloodshed?
 
#11
gallowglass said:
but religious they most certainly are not - their only god is republicanism.

GG, please don't think that the majority of Irish Republicans identify with the 'RA scum in the North. Their leaders' only god is power and money, and dirty money at that. ( and power that comes from the threat of violence.)

The Easter Uprising and NICRA's stand for universal sufferage in 1969 can not be compared in any way to the PIRA and their fellow travellers work at La Mon, Omagh, Warrington and May Street last week. :cry:

In the island of Ireland the majority of republicans prefer the rule of law to the rule of the bomb and the gun.
 
#12
"We will Kill them if asked by the dead mans family".
Well there's a big old fat chance of that.

This is the PIRA calling the sister's McCartney's bluff, and sticking 2 fingers up at PSNI and the British Governement.

"We are not going to turn them over, and we're going to make this statement, so you good god-fearing Catholic women will be fristrated in your quest for justice"

Adams and McGuiness ,and the 'non-existent Army council' I hope you burn in hell. Ditto Blair for not having the guts to force PIRA's hand.

In fact, I hope there is a real Republican out there , with an AK close to hand and dark justice in his heart.

Which other politician in mainland UK , could conceal information regarding kidnap and robbery , murder and extortion, and simply have his expense claims suspended?
 
#13
Which other politician in mainland UK , could conceal information regarding kidnap and robbery , murder and extortion, and simply have his expense claims suspended?
One that claimed with a degree of credidibility that if anything is done about it he'll start blowing up and shooting voters?
 
#14
Just remember who can play the 'long game'.

The Brits - Continual forces tied up in the Province. Continual pressure to remove these forces and dismantal the 'occupying forces'. The financial and political penalty.

The IRA/Sinn Fein - Boyos lay off the 'campaign' for a while (1, 5, 10 years). Gerry and co get feet well and truly under the table. Boyos get back to 'normal' work, earn money, pay off mortgages, wait for the military to reduce. Place arms caches into 'pres', background activity, admin, training. Wait.

I personally believe that incidents that have occured over the past few months (£21 million anyone?) are very good target indicators to the oncoming 'campaign'. Give it a few years and I'm pretty sure that we may well see a 'bit of a do' in the Emerald toilet. The IRA/Sinn Fein seemed to have 'given up' a bit too easily for my liking. Knowing some of these characters quite well over the years, they are not the sort to roll over like a poodle and ask for their balls to be scratched.

Answer me this.....



BTW. Religion is a red herring. The Catholic angle has been an excuse since about 1976. And most have fallen for that.
 
#15
I'm all for a United Ireland...... Invade the south! :wink:
 
#16
You know.... One of the best fights I've ever been in started with more or less that very statement.

Bod:- "Serious though boys would youse not welcome a United Ireland?"
My Bezzer:- "Suppose so, aye.. .. .. Under the Crown of course"

You really need to know the guy to understand the depth of insult implied by the totally deadpan delivery.

Was one of those ones with chairs, bottles, flying women and people running round shouting "non combatant, non combatant" or words to that effect. I get vivid memories every time I take my hair down to a two....

Those were the days. Sigh!
 

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#17
petermtm said:
I thought the Marxist wing of the IRA died with the Worker's Party and Official IRA back in the seventies?
Well, ish. The Officials turned into the Workers' Party, as you say and have ended up not that far from Social Democrats via a sort of green Eurocommunism.

The Provos have always had a fairly incoherent national liberation sort of vibe going, with a socialist agenda underpinning it, but have been kind of reluctant to go too public with it on account of it would have put off the Americans big style. The sort of thing they're talking about is closer to syndicalism than formal communism - lots of worker possession of the means of production and distribution through trades unions and the cadres of the vanguard party leading the working classes to enlightenment through education and example, while being protected from Capital by the workers' militia. So far so ordinary, the big deal is the historical continuity from the Second Dail and the eventual transfer of authority from the Army Council of the IRA to the "Third Dail".

They've never really bothered to think very far past "Brits out". Adams' "The Politics of Irish Freedom" is pretty good on the liberation struggle, pretty pathetic on the "well, what happens after they go?".
 

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#18
The Lord Flasheart said:
Just remember who can play the 'long game'.

The Brits - Continual forces tied up in the Province. Continual pressure to remove these forces and dismantal the 'occupying forces'. The financial and political penalty.

The IRA/Sinn Fein - Boyos lay off the 'campaign' for a while (1, 5, 10 years). Gerry and co get feet well and truly under the table. Boyos get back to 'normal' work, earn money, pay off mortgages, wait for the military to reduce. Place arms caches into 'pres', background activity, admin, training. Wait.

I personally believe that incidents that have occured over the past few months (£21 million anyone?) are very good target indicators to the oncoming 'campaign'. Give it a few years and I'm pretty sure that we may well see a 'bit of a do' in the Emerald toilet. The IRA/Sinn Fein seemed to have 'given up' a bit too easily for my liking. Knowing some of these characters quite well over the years, they are not the sort to roll over like a poodle and ask for their balls to be scratched.

BTW. Religion is a red herring. The Catholic angle has been an excuse since about 1976. And most have fallen for that.
I tend to disagree. The Brits and the Freestaters/26 Counties government/Irish have been the ones playing the long game - get them involved in politics and give them a little something - more than they ever got through violence - embrace them into the political process and feed them a mandate and all of a sudden the armed struggle is an expensive irrelevance. The recent incidents are indicative of tactical stupidity and arrogance on the part of the 'Ra, to my mind - the competent Volunteers are all ten years older now and the new breed, if they restart, will be doing so in an entirely different context after the WTC, Bali and Madrid. They can't rely on their hinterland in either the 26 Counties or the USA any more. Which is nice.
 
#19
Unfortunatly, although it is little recognised, especially by 'up arrse' Politicians the only people who know how to make an effective peace are the ones who enforce it!

That means for the benefit of any lurking 'Pols, Journos etc', soldiers.

Feck..................that was a good Red wine moment :wink:
 
#20
Plant-Pilot said:
I'm all for a United Ireland...... Invade the south! :wink:
By all means old man....but this time, might I humbly request that HMG do a better job of it than was the case in the period 1169 - 1922? :wink:

Stick_Knave - I should have perhaps pointed out that I am a 'southern' Irish Catholic (with a dash of Scots Presbyterian blood and longstanding Ulster roots) born and bred. Both sides of my family have served the British Crown (and that of France, Austria, Prussia, Russia, Poland, and Spain in times gone by.....) for centuries; two fought in the GPO during Easter week 1916 and one of my grandfathers was imprisoned in Ballykinlar in 1920 (for saying the rosary out of season as I was told when young :D ). The republicanism on which the present Republic of Ireland was originally founded has little in common with the variety practiced by Sinn Féin/PIRA. If you did (or perhaps you do?) live in 'the south' you would know that few enough people profess themselves as being actively republican although they accept the state as it was founded (in the teeth of armed opposition from the ideologial predecessors of the present Sinn Féin/PIRA...the minor matter of the Irish Civil War). However, those presenty professing themselves 'Irish Republicans' (by implication or in reality members of Sinn Féin) cannot simply repeat the weasle refrain that they 'don't support terrorism/violence' - sorry, but you are in an organistaion which does, the leading members of which have certainly practiced terrorism in the past, and either continue to do so or direct it - there is no moral grey area for the felow-travelling 'Irish Republican'. Members of Sinn Féin in the Republic of Ireland are part of an organisation that is funded by robbery, extortion, the drugs trade, and robbery; has its own illegal terrorist army which has murdered members of an Garda Síochana and the Defence Forces along with countless civilians, Protestant and Catholic; does not recognise the Irish state, which it is dedicated to overthrowing ; only recognises the results of the 1918 General Election (that's right folks, I kid you not).....republicanism is therefore illegitimate in my eyes and a serious threat to the moral and political cohesion of the Irish state. Personally, my own view is that republicanism is a foreign infection that a group of naive wannabe revolutionaries (whose Irishness does not hold up under scrutiny) brought into Ireland in the late 1790s, the immediate effect of which was to get tens of thousands of Irish people killed during the lunatic 1798 Rising. My heritage and history is repelled by this idiotic creed - Ireland is far older, and better, than this disgusting ideology.

That said, it seems clear that the present crop of republicans have simply used the historical convenience of republicanism as a cover for good old-fashioned gangsterism.
 

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