pioneers

#1
what are the exact role of the pioneers?
i am thinking of joining the army as a pioneer or a joiner.i have infomation about the joiner and what there job involves but not the pioneers.
thanks
 
#2
alexboro said:
what are the exact role of the pioneers?
i am thinking of joining the army as a pioneer or a joiner.i have infomation about the joiner and what there job involves but not the pioneers.
thanks
Can you grow a beard? 8O

Seriously, top blokes Pioneers. Good luck.
 
#3
Most people will tell you stag on, dig holes, fill body bags etc etc. But I can tell you you get out of it what you put in.
I had my C+E when I joined so ended up straight away on the INFRA Hydrema Plant Op course at Chatham.
I then did an attachment to the Welsh Guards in Salisbury whilst they were on Exercise digging their trenches. I never had to pay for a beer at the end BBQ.
I then went to Dunblane building an adventure playground at the school were the shooting was. We were made to fell very welcome by all the locals and had an excellent time.
I did a tour with the Royal Engineers in Canada on Op Warpaint and learnt loads about operating Plant Machinery from the lads I served with.
I did a tour in Kosovo going around the British Camps building the accomadation and setting up water storage. I didnt really do that much stagging on at all to be honest.
My SQN did a tour in Northern Ireland driving Saxon's for the lads over there, some even got to go out on foot patrol.
My previous SQN 518 SQN are now right in the poo on the front line with the Mercer's in Helmand Province. (There is a link on here for a sky news presentation)
There is loads of things to do, if you are motivated.
Good luck with your decision
 
#4
Ozzymick said:
Most people will tell you stag on, dig holes, fill body bags etc etc. But I can tell you you get out of it what you put in.
I had my C+E when I joined so ended up straight away on the INFRA Hydrema Plant Op course at Chatham.
I then did an attachment to the Welsh Guards in Salisbury whilst they were on Exercise digging their trenches. I never had to pay for a beer at the end BBQ.
I then went to Dunblane building an adventure playground at the school were the shooting was. We were made to fell very welcome by all the locals and had an excellent time.
I did a tour with the Royal Engineers in Canada on Op Warpaint and learnt loads about operating Plant Machinery from the lads I served with.
I did a tour in Kosovo going around the British Camps building the accomadation and setting up water storage. I didnt really do that much stagging on at all to be honest.
My SQN did a tour in Northern Ireland driving Saxon's for the lads over there, some even got to go out on foot patrol.
My previous SQN 518 SQN are now right in the poo on the front line with the Mercer's in Helmand Province. (There is a link on here for a sky news presentation)
There is loads of things to do, if you are motivated.
Good luck with your decision
As an ex-pioneer myself i could not have put it better myself. As other people above have put you get out what you put in, no mater what you join.

I had 3 1/2 great years in the Royal Pioneer Corps/Logistic corps(23 Pioneer Regt) and you can get some useful qualifications out of it.

You will find many people will slag us off as thick chunkie's and grave diggers etc etc but these people are the people that know nothing about us.

You could do a lot worse than join 23 Pioneer Regiment. Good luck with your army career, no matter what you join. :D
 
#5
Further to my last, I also did the Defence Junior Transport Operators Course and ran my SQN MT for the last year or so I was in.

So you can pretty much put your hand to what ever you want to do
 
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#6
alexboro said:
what are the exact role of the pioneers?
i am thinking of joining the army as a pioneer or a joiner.i have infomation about the joiner and what there job involves but not the pioneers.


Navvies. Make sure you don't have any on your team if you're at a pub quiz. They're not too hot on anything that isn't made by Spear and Jackson.
 
#7
Ozzymick said:
Most people will tell you stag on, dig holes, fill body bags etc etc. But I can tell you you get out of it what you put in.
I had my C+E when I joined so ended up straight away on the INFRA Hydrema Plant Op course at Chatham.
I then did an attachment to the Welsh Guards in Salisbury whilst they were on Exercise digging their trenches. I never had to pay for a beer at the end BBQ.
I then went to Dunblane building an adventure playground at the school were the shooting was. We were made to fell very welcome by all the locals and had an excellent time.
I did a tour with the Royal Engineers in Canada on Op Warpaint and learnt loads about operating Plant Machinery from the lads I served with.
I did a tour in Kosovo going around the British Camps building the accomadation and setting up water storage. I didnt really do that much stagging on at all to be honest.
My SQN did a tour in Northern Ireland driving Saxon's for the lads over there, some even got to go out on foot patrol.
My previous SQN 518 SQN are now right in the poo on the front line with the Mercer's in Helmand Province. (There is a link on here for a sky news presentation)
There is loads of things to do, if you are motivated.
Good luck with your decision
cheers for that i have heard poeple slaging them off and saying that it is not a very good job.
so thanks for that.
 
#8
#9
Ozzymick said:
Most people will tell you stag on, dig holes, fill body bags etc etc.
and they'd be right!!











only joking, fantastic blokes
 
#11
Ozzymick said:
goon_bde said:
Ozzymick said:
Most people will tell you stag on, dig holes, fill body bags etc etc.
and they'd be right!!


Now, now.

I did more stagging on when I was driver trade at Deepcut than I ever did as a Pioneer.


By this I suppose you mean you were a Driver for the first couple of weeks of your career then they realised during Training you were a complete cluster (not just the standard cluster) and sent you off to be a Chunk!












only joking, fantastic blokes
 
#12
Something has happened to the Quote box! That Chunk remark was mine and I'm very proud of it!
 
#13
Moon_Monkey_Spunk said:
Something has happened to the Quote box! That Chunk remark was mine and I'm very proud of it!
i would rather be a chunkie than a glorrified taxt driver or blanket stacker - i had more fun in 3 years as a chunkie than most of the rct could have in 10 years behind he wheel of their trucks munching on their yorkie bars(which they shouldnt be eatin as most of them are big girls.....)
 
#14
skellon said:
Moon_Monkey_Spunk said:
Something has happened to the Quote box! That Chunk remark was mine and I'm very proud of it!
i would rather be a chunkie than a glorrified taxt driver or blanket stacker - i had more fun in 3 years as a chunkie than most of the rct could have in 10 years behind he wheel of their trucks munching on their yorkie bars(which they shouldnt be eatin as most of them are big girls.....)
And wit speelin like dat u must of made chunkie SSM! :p
 
#15
skellon said:
Moon_Monkey_Spunk said:
Something has happened to the Quote box! That Chunk remark was mine and I'm very proud of it!
i would rather be a chunkie than a glorrified taxt driver or blanket stacker - i had more fun in 3 years as a chunkie than most of the rct could have in 10 years behind he wheel of their trucks munching on their yorkie bars(which they shouldnt be eatin as most of them are big girls.....)
so you could only manage 3 years then. I remember having a TA Chunkie working for me and I asked him to paint a Bedford Green, so he painted the Bedford green, all the bodywork, the lenses, the tyres and he even started to paint the windows, until I stopped him. :frustrated: Good worker but thick as pig sh1t.........
 

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#16
Its as good as you want to make it. I have a few friends that went throughIJLB as grave diggers and when I saw them 2 years later inBelfast they all had hgv, plantops tickets etc. When they left they did very well, one runs his own transport firm and the other a construction plant hire firm. yes they had luck on their side but they also werent shy about volunteering for courses either. Back then a Chunkie was an Inf assaultPioneer and the Cippy was the unit joiner and sign painter. If I'd not listened to me mum who insisted a regiment was better than a corps, but then would I have had as much fun? Been able to proudly say I was a grunt!
 
#17
When I ran my the SQN MT I had to have a B3 driver attached to me due to the politics and he had to sign off certain works with my paperwork, fact is he didnt have a clue what he was signing half the time.

Scary
 
#18
a good mate of mine is just about to finish his 22yrs as a pioneer (red & green through & through) he said to me he had no regrets joining but feels their role has changed so much he would'nt recommend young lads to join now :? i feel that they do a fantastic job and they are a asset to the corp that go's for any trade it the army, we cant do without them.

good luck with wot ever u decide :eek:
 
#19
Ozzymick said:
When I ran my the SQN MT I had to have a B3 driver attached to me due to the politics and he had to sign off certain works with my paperwork, fact is he didnt have a clue what he was signing half the time.

Scary
And you obviously felt Training him was not your Job? The big giveaway here is he was a B3 driver, straight out of the factory, hoping that somebody would train him in his chosen career so he would learn "what he was signing off" Pity he was attached to a p i s s poor Comd like you that didn't bother showing him the ropes!
 
#20
Moon_Monkey_Spunk said:
Ozzymick said:
When I ran my the SQN MT I had to have a B3 driver attached to me due to the politics and he had to sign off certain works with my paperwork, fact is he didnt have a clue what he was signing half the time.

Scary
And you obviously felt Training him was not your Job? The big giveaway here is he was a B3 driver, straight out of the factory, hoping that somebody would train him in his chosen career so he would learn "what he was signing off" Pity he was attached to a p i s s poor Comd like you that didn't bother showing him the ropes!
It is funny you say that, but it wasn't my job as
1. I was a private and
2. He was attached to me as the supposed expert and should have been checking up on me not the other way round.

I also did driver familiarisation but had to get a L/Cpl to sign the FMT's as I wasn't allowed.

If I hadn't have been medically downgraded I would have been able to do the MPC course and could have had the rank which would have backed up your statement.

I thank you
 
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