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Pinochet has a heart attack

I had that Pinochet in the back of my cab one day,
beautiful manners, lovely suit he was wearing.

So I said to him, "So what's Life really all about then General?
And he said, "I wouldn't know mate, every time I come accross the stuff I snuff it out."

Well, I thought that's fair enough, each to his own.
And he gave me a nice large tip when I dropped him off at Claridges.



Laughing my arse off as Rome burns and fools roast
 
Brick,

How is this for some balance? I know it's the BBC but it's the best I could come up with on such short notice.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/63821.stm

The coup in which General Augusto Pinochet seized power in 1973 was the bloodiest in 20th century South America.
More than 3,000 were killed in the September military onslaught, which began when fighter jets bombed the Presidential Palace while the democratically elected President, Salvador Allende, was still inside.
 
Brick, don't be as thick as,
never mind the word socialist did the article contain useful information?

Remember, Paul Bremmer got rid of the Baath party because it had some socialist roots and look what's happened to Iraq?

You don't want to be as thick as an American Pro Consul do you?


Laughing my arse off as Rome burns and Fools roast.
 
At 91 years old we should have offered him our NHS facilities free of charge!

He would certainly now be dead!

MRSA and clostridium Defficile, the most effective means of culling the aged!
 
Interesting hang over from the Cold War this one - how many can name the dictators of Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, Bolivia, all of whom killed far more people in far nastier ways than old Pin? No Google help, mind.

Not a nice bloke, but he did turn Chile into a successful country economically and politically and he handed over to a democratic government that has stayed that way.
 
Bouillabaisse said:
Interesting hang over from the Cold War this one - how many can name the dictators of Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, Bolivia, all of whom killed far more people in far nastier ways than old Pin? No Google help, mind.

Not a nice bloke, but he did turn Chile into a successful country economically and politically and he handed over to a democratic government that has stayed that way.

Dictators of the Cold War period in Latin america? Allende - alright he was elected initially but you don't have to seize power initially to become a dictator, e.g. Hitler, Blair, Saddam Hussein. Oh, sorry Saddam wasn't elected originally by a pluraility!
 
frenchperson said:
9/11/1973 - 10,000 or more dead, tortured and missing. Whoever actually did it, it sort of puts 9/11/2001 into some perspective.

Moral relativsm, thy name is frenchperson...


brighton hippy said:
murdering 3000 people is a bit of bother :?
the git was a tyrant who decided he knew more how to run a country than than than politicions he sold out his countrys democracy on orders from a forign intelligence agency. hope he dies in * agony.
Castros a tryant but he rebelled for a dam good reason not because the cia thought it was a good idea CUba still a better place to live than for instance HAITI :(

Obviously, you are unaware of the runaway inflation which occurred under Allende's mis-rule, and the fact that the country - one of the historically most stable in South America - was crippled by strikes and unrest during his presidency.

Many Chileans - my cousins among them, who vividly remember 'Cuban advisors' mooching about Santiago prior to September 1973 - are thankful for Pinochet's coup, while not approving of his methods nor the deaths of some 3,000 people - a figure which pales into comparison with the butcher's bill of the 'progressive' leaders often championed here by the usual suspects. To echo brighton hippy's words, Pinochet - like Castro - also felt that he had a "dam[n] good reason" to 'rebel'. It is a bit rich to portray Pinochet as a CIA lackey - a somewhat tired argument - in light of the manner in which Castro turned Cuba into a de facto Soviet satellite.

On a point of accuracy, Haiti is a mess largely thanks to decades of dictatorship courtesy of the Duvaliers, and then the well-meaning, yet useless, interference of the UN. Perhaps you would prefer to let the Cuban secret police loose in Haiti? - they would, I imagine, soon implement the firm smack of government.
 
frenchperson said:
Inflation; strikes; unrest - DAMMIT, I know - let's kill everyone. . . . it's the Gallowglass solution :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Oh va t'enculer! Chile in the early 1970s went from a bit ropey democracy to an elected dictatorship. The economy went to ratchet, people were disappeared by the state socialist secret police and Cuban henchmen and education started to become indoctrination.

Now imagine if that was the UK, there are those who would certainly consider a coup. Pinochet just did what so many centrist military folk wish they had the courage to do. Unfortunately he din't return power to the demos quickly enough and guess what, insurgency and dissidence led to crack downs and brutality.
 
frenchperson said:
Inflation; strikes; unrest - DAMMIT, I know - let's kill everyone. . . . it's the Gallowglass solution :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

"everyone"?

3,000+ dead old man, it's hardly mass genocide. Keeping things in perspective as always I see...
 
gallowglass said:
frenchperson said:
9/11/1973 - 10,000 or more dead, tortured and missing. Whoever actually did it, it sort of puts 9/11/2001 into some perspective.

Moral relativsm, thy name is frenchperson...


brighton hippy said:
murdering 3000 people is a bit of bother :?
the git was a tyrant who decided he knew more how to run a country than than than politicions he sold out his countrys democracy on orders from a forign intelligence agency. hope he dies in * agony.
Castros a tryant but he rebelled for a dam good reason not because the cia thought it was a good idea CUba still a better place to live than for instance HAITI :(

Obviously, you are unaware of the runaway inflation which occurred under Allende's mis-rule, and the fact that the country - one of the historically most stable in South America - was crippled by strikes and unrest during his presidency.

Many Chileans - my cousins among them, who vividly remember 'Cuban advisors' mooching about Santiago prior to September 1973 - are thankful for Pinochet's coup, while not approving of his methods nor the deaths of some 3,000 people - a figure which pales into comparison with the butcher's bill of the 'progressive' leaders often championed here by the usual suspects. To echo brighton hippy's words, Pinochet - like Castro - also felt that he had a "dam[n] good reason" to 'rebel'. It is a bit rich to portray Pinochet as a CIA lackey - a somewhat tired argument - in light of the manner in which Castro turned Cuba into a de facto Soviet satellite.

On a point of accuracy, Haiti is a mess largely thanks to decades of dictatorship courtesy of the Duvaliers, and then the well-meaning, yet useless, interference of the UN. Perhaps you would prefer to let the Cuban secret police loose in Haiti? - they would, I imagine, soon implement the firm smack of government.

I was sat in the bierstube last night and happened to tell a Chilean mate (who's mum was detained and tortured by Pinochet's happy legion of nutters) about his heart attack. She started crying and then texted all her Chilean mates in Germany. They come from a range of families poor, middle and upper class and everyone of them want to see the buggr dead, or at least for him to say sorry...
 
gallowglass said:
frenchperson said:
Inflation; strikes; unrest - DAMMIT, I know - let's kill everyone. . . . it's the Gallowglass solution :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

"everyone"?

3,000+ dead old man, it's hardly mass genocide. Keeping things in perspective as always I see...

Unlike you, where 3,000+++ dead is somehow acceptable! Strange fellow. Did anybody take you up on your recent plea to 'arrse users' in London, by the way?
 
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