Piece of shit AGA

Truxx

LE
The old ways are the best... kick the aga into touch mate. You know you want to.

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One of your peasants, standing on a box outside in all weathers turning the handle that drives the fcking big wheel, easy to replace if he suddenly stops working and a damned good thrashing doesn't fix the fault.

Have a few of your tenant serfs collecting wood from the estate forests - they can do that at night after they finish labouring in the fields all day - and you will completely sever your reliance on all the new fangled modern shit that lets you down at the drop of a hat and has no place in Cumbria anyway..
The two lads (brothers) who worked for my dad lived in a small one room house (in Drybeck) with a small loft to sleep in. The floor was packed earth and a big open fire just like that was on the end wall. They had a (clockwork) spit and a "crane" a sort of small jib that you could hang a kettle or similar off that was hinged from one side whilst on the other was a simple metal box into which bread or a pie could be popped to bake. Must have been like that well into the 80s when the last one of the two of them popped their clogs. The other end of the room was a couple of stalls for a cow or a pig or two.

They are the two far right. Note the waistcoat on Tom, the older of the two, A youthful truxx can be seen at the headboard end. The bloke we had loaded had the gig for removing soil etc from Southport zoo. Thus Truxx mum never tired of telling guests that her rhubarb was grown in tiger shit.

Their house is now painted pink and probably has an aga.

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My parents has a New World stand alone gas cooker [eye level grill type in chocolate BL brown] which dated from the early 1980s IIRC. I "inherited" it in 1996 and used it for several years until we rebuilt the kitchen in our old house in 2003. At that point it was passed on to my brother in law. It is still in daily use in his house and shows no signs of packing in.

It's the best part of 40 years old and I don't think that anything has ever been replaced on it.

ETA: Like this one:
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Two tone BL brown?

And a twist open oven door handle?

Seething with envy here!
 
It did work for a while afterwards I think. I think one of the difficulties was that by then the smelting was done in Sheffield. If I remember dad rightly the biggest lorry they could get up to the hopper at Lucy Tongue was a 12 tonner.
By that time Greenside was a thousand feet deep below adit and another thousand feet up inside the mountain (there is an enterance over the top in Glencoynedale)

Carrock, not only the biggest but the highest quality (at least Krupp thought so, much of the pre 1st war production went to Germany for armour plate)
RTZ kept the rights for a reason!
Used to wander in there when it was working and I was a youth. Slight drift on subject but that was bout the time Tutti Brough had his pair of lions down the valley, he reputedly used to let them wander loose on occasion which kept you on your toes when camping up there

Entirely with you on the special planning board and friends of the lake district though!
Ah theres
It did work for a while afterwards I think. I think one of the difficulties was that by then the smelting was done in Sheffield. If I remember dad rightly the biggest lorry they could get up to the hopper at Lucy Tongue was a 12 tonner.
By that time Greenside was a thousand feet deep below adit and another thousand feet up inside the mountain (there is an enterance over the top in Glencoynedale)

Carrock, not only the biggest but the highest quality (at least Krupp thought so, much of the pre 1st war production went to Germany for armour plate)
RTZ kept the rights for a reason!
Used to wander in there when it was working and I was a youth. Slight drift on subject but that was bout the time Tutti Brough had his pair of lions down the valley, he reputedly used to let them wander loose on occasion which kept you on your toes when camping up there

Entirely with you on the special planning board and friends of the lake district though!
Ah there’s a name from the past I thought I’d never hear again.
Tutti had a bit of a menagerie didn’t he.
He once came up to the club/ bar at our caravan site at troutbeck with something like a puma on a lead.
i remember seeing this cat the size of a labrador peering out from under a bar chair. A pair of enormous eyes missing nothing and a truly frightening pair of sheathed front paws that didn’t really mask the huge claws hidden within.
A colourful lunatic was Tutty.
 

Oops

Old-Salt
The two lads (brothers) who worked for my dad lived in a small one room house (in Drybeck) with a small loft to sleep in. The floor was packed earth and a big open fire just like that was on the end wall. They had a (clockwork) spit and a "crane" a sort of small jib that you could hang a kettle or similar off that was hinged from one side whilst on the other was a simple metal box into which bread or a pie could be popped to bake. Must have been like that well into the 80s when the last one of the two of them popped their clogs. The other end of the room was a couple of stalls for a cow or a pig or two.

They are the two far right. Note the waistcoat on Tom, the older of the two, A youthful truxx can be seen at the headboard end. The bloke we had loaded had the gig for removing soil etc from Southport zoo. Thus Truxx mum never tired of telling guests that her rhubarb was grown in tiger shit.

Their house is now painted pink and probably has an aga.

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Wow, what a find...
I reckon I could find at least three garden rockeries within a couple of miles of here that originate from that lorry.
( Dad's fireplace included)

One of Bob's brothers umpired/ coached me as a young cricketer.
Another drove a Chara well into his 70's...

First, New World cookers
Now Bedford KM's.....

Thread drift into
'All our yesterday's'....

All from a blown circuit board!
 
Ah theres

Ah there’s a name from the past I thought I’d never hear again.
Tutti had a bit of a menagerie didn’t he.
He once came up to the club/ bar at our caravan site at troutbeck with something like a puma on a lead.
i remember seeing this cat the size of a labrador peering out from under a bar chair. A pair of enormous eyes missing nothing and a truly frightening pair of sheathed front paws that didn’t really mask the huge claws hidden within.
A colourful lunatic was Tutty.

Met a sad end unfortunately
Topped himself after the RSPCA turned up mob handed and took all the fell ponies. Think he was arrested and accused of animal cruelty. Completely unfounded and unjust but he couldn't tale the accusation. I think the RSPCA had to apolgise to his widow

If I remember rightly he had the lions from cubs and called them Clarence and Henry. Lived in a big cage on the farm halfway between the village and Carrock.
Not sure how true it was but rumour was that he didn't always shut the cage door until they ate a neighbours dog.

Nice bloke, mad as a box of frogs.
 
Met a sad end unfortunately
Topped himself after the RSPCA turned up mob handed and took all the fell ponies. Think he was arrested and accused of animal cruelty. Completely unfounded and unjust but he couldn't tale the accusation. I think the RSPCA had to apolgise to his widow

If I remember rightly he had the lions from cubs and called them Clarence and Henry. Lived in a big cage on the farm halfway between the village and Carrock.
Not sure how true it was but rumour was that he didn't always shut the cage door until they ate a neighbours dog.

Nice bloke, mad as a box of frogs.
In a neatly circular route Tutty sold my dad a cast iron kitchen range that Althams cast and sold as a flatpack in the Victorian era, We rebuilt it at Rookin House where it resides ( and still works on occasion to this day).
and neatly back on thread.........
 
In a neatly circular route Tutty sold my dad a cast iron kitchen range that Althams cast and sold as a flatpack in the Victorian era, We rebuilt it at Rookin House where it resides ( and still works on occasion to this day).
and neatly back on thread.........

Gotta love Arrse threads haven't you! Very neatly circular, completely rambling thread that ends up almost right back where it started :-D

Co-indecently, the last house I lived in on Alston Moor (before I moved to Wales) had an Althams range in the sitting room
 
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Truxx

LE
Wow, what a find...
I reckon I could find at least three garden rockeries within a couple of miles of here that originate from that lorry.
( Dad's fireplace included)

One of Bob's brothers umpired/ coached me as a young cricketer.
Another drove a Chara well into his 70's...

First, New World cookers
Now Bedford KM's.....

Thread drift into
'All our yesterday's'....

All from a blown circuit board!
Even worse is the fact that I was having a bit of a dig out of the office and found Dads old buff log book for that Standard Ensign - the one nearest the back of the truck. All that rock was hand loaded. Character building stuff.

We used to shift tons of waterworn limestone southport way, including very big lumps for the flower show. I even think we did some for the town hall gardens? (not hand bouled this time - we had an ancient pre-war tractor with a home made crane on it. My grandad bought the tractor new in 1938 and I still have it. (sans crane)

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Sadly dad had to pack it in when the Fiends of the Earth etc made the stuff too hot to handle, although feck knows where they thought all the rock for the hundreds of farmhouses and barns and the thousands of miles of dry stone wall came from. We staggered on with quarrying for a while but it pretty much broke him.
 

Truxx

LE
To summarise then;

Allis Chalmers Model U. Hoofing bit of kit.

Bedford KM. Hoofing bit of kit.

Aga? Overpriced door stop.


that tractor by the way was the first tractor in Westmorland with rubber tyres.

that very one.
 
To summarise then;

Allis Chalmers Model U. Hoofing bit of kit.

Bedford KM. Hoofing bit of kit.

Aga? Overpriced door stop.


that tractor by the way was the first tractor in Westmorland with rubber tyres.

that very one.

Allis Chalmers- Gone
Bedford- Gone
Westmorland- Gone

Aga- still here......

Explain that one!
 
Energy use[edit]
A small, traditional two-oven AGA running on gas will use approximately 2,530 watts; 22,200 kilowatt-hours per year (perhaps half that if switched off during the summer months). The average standard gas oven and hob uses 580 kilowatt-hours per year (66 watts), only 2.6% of the AGA's consumption.[2] AGA's own figures for expected energy consumption for their two-oven AGA support this criticism,[3] suggesting average consumption of 40 litres of kerosene or diesel fuel per week, 60 litres of propane gas per week, 425 kW⋅h of natural gas per week, or 220 kW⋅h/week for the electric models. This would indicate that the smallest traditional two-oven gas AGA providing simple cooking functions (i.e. no water heating or central heating) consumes thirty-eight times as much as a standard gas oven and hob, almost as much gas in a week as a standard gas oven and hob in nine months.

AGA has provided an analysis of their own, which includes the steps taken to reduce energy consumption.[4]

Owners[5] often talk about how the AGA actually makes their homes more energy efficient, as the AGA does a number of jobs, such as replacing several radiators, a tumble dryer, electric kettle and toaster and is not simply a cooker.

The vast majority of AGAs sold today are programmable and AGA announced an upgrade initiative in 2009,[6] meaning that owners of older AGA cookers can have them modified so they are programmable. The latest model, the AGA Total Control,[7] uses the same radiant heat to cook, but is designed to be switched off like a regular cooker when not in use, using far less energy as a result. Oil burning AGAs can be fitted with a modern pressure jet oil burner in place of the standard wick burner which burns the fuel more efficiently and so reduces oil consumption.

It must be good to have money to burn, so to speak.
 

Oops

Old-Salt
Energy use[edit]
A small, traditional two-oven AGA running on gas will use approximately 2,530 watts; 22,200 kilowatt-hours per year (perhaps half that if switched off during the summer months). The average standard gas oven and hob uses 580 kilowatt-hours per year (66 watts), only 2.6% of the AGA's consumption.[2] AGA's own figures for expected energy consumption for their two-oven AGA support this criticism,[3] suggesting average consumption of 40 litres of kerosene or diesel fuel per week, 60 litres of propane gas per week, 425 kW⋅h of natural gas per week, or 220 kW⋅h/week for the electric models. This would indicate that the smallest traditional two-oven gas AGA providing simple cooking functions (i.e. no water heating or central heating) consumes thirty-eight times as much as a standard gas oven and hob, almost as much gas in a week as a standard gas oven and hob in nine months.

AGA has provided an analysis of their own, which includes the steps taken to reduce energy consumption.[4]

Owners[5] often talk about how the AGA actually makes their homes more energy efficient, as the AGA does a number of jobs, such as replacing several radiators, a tumble dryer, electric kettle and toaster and is not simply a cooker.

The vast majority of AGAs sold today are programmable and AGA announced an upgrade initiative in 2009,[6] meaning that owners of older AGA cookers can have them modified so they are programmable. The latest model, the AGA Total Control,[7] uses the same radiant heat to cook, but is designed to be switched off like a regular cooker when not in use, using far less energy as a result. Oil burning AGAs can be fitted with a modern pressure jet oil burner in place of the standard wick burner which burns the fuel more efficiently and so reduces oil consumption.

It must be good to have money to burn, so to speak.
BiL has a new ( 7 yo) leccy one, he qoutes summat like the above.....
"I don't know how, but they say it only costs pennies a day"

His missus is an accountant, she's more 'tight lipped'....

The drop scones are nice!
 

Truxx

LE
Allis Chalmers- Gone
Bedford- Gone
Westmorland- Gone

Aga- still here......

Explain that one!
Allis Chalmers still at it. Bedford (the name) still owned by a mate of mine and Time Team will be digging up MKs in a thousand years time, sticking a battery on and firing them up and westmorland still very much here in spirit.

Aga so buggered about with that it no longer embodies the simplicity and effectiveness of the original concept.

as witnessed by this thread.

Sadly
 
Allis Chalmers still at it. Bedford (the name) still owned by a mate of mine and Time Team will be digging up MKs in a thousand years time, sticking a battery on and firing them up and westmorland still very much here in spirit.

Aga so buggered about with that it no longer embodies the simplicity and effectiveness of the original concept.

as witnessed by this thread.

Sadly

As an even further thread meander, is he ever likely to do anything with the Bedford name?

I still harbour secret fantasies about Paccar reviving the Foden brand.......
 

Truxx

LE
As an even further thread meander, is he ever likely to do anything with the Bedford name?

I still harbour secret fantasies about Paccar reviving the Foden brand.......
He has ideas, but no plans The landscape is so dominated by the big Europeans and many of the niches already filled (like Dennis)

Depending on what happens with us leaving the EU I think it not inconceivable that something with Foden badges might reappear. It would be a good move and no different to Chevrolet in the 1930s 're-branding their range of trucks as "Bedfords". Even though they were Chevvies.
 
As an even further thread meander, is he ever likely to do anything with the Bedford name my specialist subject would either be the Koenig radial engine or the turner gearbox
This might need a new thread
( I had a skip company on the Isle of Man until 96 that exclusively tk bedfords
( my wife would jest that if I was ever on mastermind my specialist subject would be either the Koenig radial aero engine or the turner gearbox 1948 to 1975.)
 

Truxx

LE
As a truckie I was slightly disappointed and somewhat surprised how Bedford disappeared from our horizons without a whimper, having been the backbone of military transport for 50 years. It had a bit of a last hurrah with the ill fated attempt at the truck 4 tonne trial (beaten by Leyland) but after that, nowt.

Still, that, as they say, is progress and nostalgia is worth nowt in the modern world (not entirely true as they can still knock out and sell, at great expense, agas based on some ridiculous notion that they are special and hark back to the days of empire, steam railways, sherbert dabs and polio.)

Maybe not the last one.
 

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