Phoenix close protection

Afternoon all, I'm about to leave the army after 13 years service and have done some research about a phoenix cp course. Everything I've been told sounds too good to be true, which my instinct automatically tells me that it is too good to be true. Has anyone on here done a course with them and secured employment? I'm interested to find out your experience working for phoenix rather than the course itself. Any help would be appreciated, thank you in advance
 

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Know nothing about them but a lot of ex military were doing the G4S CP cse then heading out to sunny climes. Demand may have eased off though with our withdrawal from Afghanistan.
 
Know nothing about them but a lot of ex military were doing the G4S CP cse then heading out to sunny climes. Demand may have eased off though with our withdrawal from Afghanistan.
I was told by the gentleman on the phone that phoenix are purely Europe and UK and extremely low risk. This puts my misses at ease but I've read so many amazing reviews on the course itself, trust pilot and such... I know they interview for employment when passing the course so I'd be more interested in knowing what they are like to work for as a company
 
Phoenix has a good repution, HOWEVER, any training provider offering "guaranteed employment upon successful completion of "their" course should be treated with deep scepticism. It's simply not how it works mate, job placements are largely down to right time, right place and more often than not, heavily relient upon the reccomendation of others willing to vouch for you.

The industry is swamped with large numbers of highly experienced and eager individuals, chasing a very small number of jobs. One final thing, don't believe the tales of pop star pay rates, those days are long gone.

Good luck!
 
Phoenix has a good repution, HOWEVER, any training provider offering "guaranteed employment upon successful completion of "their" course should be treated with deep scepticism. It's simply not how it works mate, job placements are largely down to right time, right place and more often than not, heavily relient upon the reccomendation of others willing to vouch for you.

The industry is swamped with large numbers of highly experienced and eager individuals, chasing a very small number of jobs. One final thing, don't believe the tales of pop star pay rates, those days are long gone.

Good luck!
That was the way it was for me in 88, a friend (ex-them) met up with me in London. We had worked together for a couple of years in the 80's and, he knew I was CP trained driver. An 'insurance' company he was working for was looking for a driver...job jobbed. I had friends coming out in the 90's,suitably trained,not a sniff. That said, after 9 years I'd had enough and, retired back to the country and, a nice job in 'the print'. :mrgreen:
 
Phoenix has a good repution, HOWEVER, any training provider offering "guaranteed employment upon successful completion of "their" course should be treated with deep scepticism. It's simply not how it works mate, job placements are largely down to right time, right place and more often than not, heavily relient upon the reccomendation of others willing to vouch for you.

The industry is swamped with large numbers of highly experienced and eager individuals, chasing a very small number of jobs. One final thing, don't believe the tales of pop star pay rates, those days are long gone.

Good luck!
Thanks for the reply. I should have worded it better, the guarantee an interview on completion of training but no guarantee of employment with the company. They did however tell me the daily rate of pay is £300 working Monday to Thursday mainly UK and Europe. I'm not one to turn down that kind of money and although its not the wages they used to be, its certainly not a small figure compared to most jobs out there. I'm a little skeptical at the fact I'd be working 4 days per week for over 62k per year but I wish I could find someone who works directly for phoenix as I'd love it to all be true
 
How much would you have to fork out for the training course?

There must be thousands of ex-forces personnel that have done these courses and haven't got anywhere afterwards. Do you have the requisite skills and experience or any specialisms gained in your 13 years that will put you head and shoulders above your competitors for any available contracts? Do you have any contacts within the CP industry that will vouch for you in what I would think is a highly competitive market for few desirable jobs? It's not a world I am familiar with but I suspect that if your name is not known you may struggle to gain employment. I would also imagine peak CP is past unless you are willing to take on the less appealing contracts. I think the same has happened in the maritime security industry now that piracy seems to have been forgotten about.

As a newbie into the industry I would imagine you would need to work hard to establish your credentials and build up a reputation that would bring you in the desirable contracts, income and lifestyle that you might hope for. You would be right to be sceptical thinking that a newbie would be on £60+K for a 4-day week.

Would you be happy being away from home for weeks or months at a time on a job then waiting around for the next contract to come along with possibly no income in between (unless your're on a retainer)?

A colleague of mine is looking at going down the anti-kidnap route and thinks there's money to be made in that. Is that something you might consider as an alternative?

Another thing to consider is your age and how long you think you could do this for before needing to look for something else. The older you get the more difficult it is breaking into a different career path. Have you identified an alternative form of employment if it all goes tits up and what qualifications you might need for that?

Whatever you decide - good luck.
 
That was the way it was for me in 88, a friend (ex-them) met up with me in London. We had worked together for a couple of years in the 80's and, he knew I was CP trained driver. An 'insurance' company he was working for was looking for a driver...job jobbed. I had friends coming out in the 90's,suitably trained,not a sniff. That said, after 9 years I'd had enough and, retired back to the country and, a nice job in 'the print'. :mrgreen:
So reading between the lines then - you were a getaway driver for a protection racket crew and after getting banged up for an 18 stretch (half off for good behaviour) you decided to get into banknote forgery and money laundering.

What's the name of your OCG?
 
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How much would you have to fork out for the training course?

There must be thousands of ex-forces personnel that have done these courses and haven't got anywhere afterwards. Do you have the requisite skills and experience or any specialisms gained in your 13 years that will put you head and shoulders above your competitors for any available contracts? Do you have any contacts within the CP industry that will vouch for you in what I would think is a highly competitive market for few desirable jobs? It's not a world I am familiar with but I suspect that if your name is not known you may struggle to gain employment. I would also imagine peak CP is past unless you are willing to take on the less appealing contracts. I think the same has happened in the maritime security industry now that piracy seems to have been forgotten about.

As a newbie into the industry I would imagine you would need to work hard to establish your credentials and build up a reputation that would bring you in the desirable contracts, income and lifestyle that you might hope for. You would be right to be sceptical thinking that a newbie would be on £60+K for a 4-day week.

Would you be happy being away from home for weeks or months at a time on a job then waiting around for the next contract to come along with possibly no income in between (unless your're on a retainer)?

A colleague of mine is looking at going down the anti-kidnap route and thinks there's money to be made in that. Is that something you might consider as an alternative?

Another thing to consider is your age and how long you think you could do this for before needing to look for something else. The older you get the more difficult it is breaking into a different career path. Have you identified an alternative form of employment if it all goes tits up and what qualifications you might need for that?

Whatever you decide - good luck.
Hello Jimmy, thank you for the reply!

I have been told that phoenix are constantly recruiting and always taking on new employees as the skill set required for the type of work is much lower than thst needed in higher risk areas. Mainly looking after aaa celebrities, chauffeur from airport to hotel and managing their time under care of phoenix. This would be a complete new career path for me and obviously it would take years of on the job experience to get anywhere. I haven't officially signed off yet and have many other opportunities available to me, this obviously being one of them. I have another 40 years of work in me before retirement so if this didn't work out, the other opportunities would still be available as I already have most of the prerequisite qualifications to gain employment in the future. In an ideal world, I'd like someone who works for these to contact me and confirm that all is as told and that everything will work out, but that's not how life works eh? As for working away from my family, it is a Monday to Thursday contract every single week with opportunity for weekend overtime if I wanted it. Again, it seems far too good to be true. This is why I've come here before making any rash decisions. Always do the research. Thank you for your well wishes
 

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