phase 2/combat engineer

iv read lots of pasts about basic but still know hardly nothing about the combat engineer training ;

is there any tips and advice i should know ?

will it be as strict as phase 1 ?
Read nightrained's posts since the day he joined ARRSE. You may even learn some lessons along the way. Who knows, maybe nightrained will drop by and answer everything you wanted to know.
arty90 said:
noobie1313 said:
hope your good at your best book mate
best book?

c'mon then nightrained tell me what its all about
A best book is a record of everything you have been taught... which you write up each day

After 20 something years, I still have mine .... somewhere
Best books and crib cards should be a thing of the past. Outdated as soon as you finish. I still have mine from the summer of 89, but it's more of a museum piece. Did crib cards on my B1, and again a waste of time. Some of my blokes received a disk for their Inf Pnr Sgts cse the other month. And that wasn't up to date. Pams were without ammdts, kit that is obsolete. And this is from the School of Excelence
google is your friend arty90
I will be a bit more forthcoming.

Your Class 3 Combat Engineer course lasts around 10 weeks although this may have changed. The syllabus is along the lines of the following and may not be in this order any more:

Basic Field Engineering: knots & lashings, hand tools, power tools, crane and fork lift signals.

Basic Construction Techniques: introduction to concreting, introduction to basic brick/block laying, introduction to basic carpentry.

Project: a 3 day task which could be anywhere in the UK practacing what you've been taught. You may do stuff like building playgrounds or improving military training areas.

Signals: introduction to basic signals and voice procedure.

Demolition: you learn the joys of PE4, normal and electrical circuits, how to blow up different things such as bridges and trees and different methods of initiation.

Field Fortifications: different types of trenches, their uses and barbed wire fences.

Water Supply: how to set up and operate a water point i.e different pumps and sterilization methods.

Watermanship: operating paddle and outboard powered craft.

Non equipment bridging: how to build bridges out of timber and steel.

Equipment bridges: how to build different types of military bridging.

Mine warfare: you learn about different types of anti tank mine, how to lay, arm and disarm mines, mine field clearance and booby traps.

Plant, roads and airfields: how to lay and recover trackway, construct different types of drainage and different types of culvert.

All of this is confirmed in a week long exercise which is pretty cheeky to put it mildly.

At the end of each day you write up what you have learned in a Best Book. This is your revision aid for exams and when you come to do your Class 2 Combat Engineer tick test and Class One Combat Engineer course. You do crib cards on your B1, I have used mine and have found them pretty useful.

There is a path shaped like a grand piano at the rear of 57 Sqn troop offices. If you c0ck up and hear the cry "piano" you run around the said path very quickly!

Hope this is helpful.
I must admit after nearly 20 yrs in the Corps I didn't know what the "Piano" was. Now I'm enlightened. We used to dread the words "Get in the quad" Pure hell. No one could see or hear you apart from your own troop/sqn. No outside do gooders.
We used to dread THE QUAD! We were pleased when quad time was canned for us after one of the blokes dislocated his elbow in the bundle out of the quad one time. The instructor parped it and was quite scared that he was going to get in the sh1t for it.
Quad Time was time to be feared. Also carrying an MGB kerb around the hard for f**king up on the bridge site.

Our troop mascot was a small concrete gnome about a foot tall and bloody heavy. And an MGB buffer from the end of the pallet. That cordage didn't 1/2 cut into your shoulder when running across the gobi desert on the way to the hard for whatever delights that were instore for us. Those were the days.
When I left there I was so prepared for the Cold War. After reading the other thread it all comes back. The good memoroes and the bad
Oh the joys of running around the mines training area with a bar mine above your head for forgetting something. Or having elsies and rangers thrown at you if you weren't prodding fast enough! Luckily those days have gone now!
Why??? I think it made you think about your actions a bit more. Some of the younger blokes speak and think after.
Does that make me old and grumpy??

Ranger Space invaders. What a brilliant game. Then we had to collect all the mines so that the sect comd who had his own house with open fire could use them as fuel. Those were the days
I don't think it makes you that old and grumpy. Whilst training should be hard and robust launching stuff at recruits just for sh1ts and giggles has no training benefit and doesn't teach them a thing. Same for hardcore sprogging, no need for it. Unless your number is 1 you are always going to be a sprog to somebody so just get over it. Yes, the new guys should expect to be given the carp jobs but to be ignored for weeks, constantly hassled and given sh1t all the time is hardly making them feel part of the section or troop.
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