Petrol 53.8p Litre Diesel 57.3p Litre

#2
Which is why OPEC are loathe to respond to demands for price easing. It's not the cost of crude but the Government Duty that makes fuel so expensive in this country. OPEC take the view that we should accept a cut ourselves instead of expecting them to do so. They have a point.
 
#3
Which is why OPEC are loathe to respond to demands for price easing. It's not the cost of crude but the Government Duty that makes fuel so expensive in this country. OPEC take the view that we should accept a cut ourselves instead of expecting them to do so. They have a point.
OPEC have a finite resource and will look to get the best price for it as they possibly can before it runs out..... Fuel needs to be this high to fund the Welfare budget in the UK.

That is not to say this can become a peak oil thread....
 
#4
Last year I was putting £40 a week in the motor and that lasted a full week, now it is closer to £60, my journeys haven't increased in fact they have lessened. If the price rise goes ahead in Jan or in the budget then it I will have to ditch the car for all but essential journeys and will have to get the push bike out again for getting to work.

On that point, will this mean that people will stop long commutes to work and people will seek employment closer to their home? there seems that there could be a whole raft of issues that could emerge once the price hits a point where it becomes prohibitive for some people to own and run a car, and how far away is that scenario.
 
#6
I know I am not really in a position to comment on this living and working in BFG with fuel coupons. However, I still notice prices and what I cannot get is why the UK, I know there are 1 or 2 others but stick to UK, makes diesel more expensive than petrol when on the continent as a whole its the other way round. Most HGV use diesel, so why hamstring our tpt industry by making it cheaper to fill up abroad?
 
#7
Politicians will never listen becuase the political classes can claim their petrol back on expenses.
 
#8
I know I am not really in a position to comment on this living and working in BFG with fuel coupons. However, I still notice prices and what I cannot get is why the UK, I know there are 1 or 2 others but stick to UK, makes diesel more expensive than petrol when on the continent as a whole its the other way round. Most HGV use diesel, so why hamstring our tpt industry by making it cheaper to fill up abroad?
Easy answer = it was a Labour tax grab. Spend a few years waiting for motorists to switch to (then) more economic diesel cars, then declare diesel a danger to the environment and impose a punative rate of tax.
 
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#12
It will soon be £1.00 per litre, then what will we do? .... Nothing is the answer!

Society has branded the internal combustion engine as a "vital product" in the efficiently of the running of society and has now taken it for granted, irrelevant of cost.

This is why the authority's bang the motorist for so much money buy way of taxes and fines, then there is a second wave of expenditure by way of greedy rip off insurance company's, not to mention the breakdown boys
charging a Statutory Charge of £120 to simply tow you off the motorway unless you pay by rolling direct debit to a breakdown company.

The British Motorist, very unhappy about the cost of motoring, but unable and unwilling to do anything about it.

Make it £10.00 per litre, we will winge about it but still cough up. :)
 

TheresaMay

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#13
Easy answer = it was a Labour tax grab. Spend a few years waiting for motorists to switch to (then) more economic diesel cars, then declare diesel a danger to the environment and impose a punative rate of tax.
A mate of mine has a T Reg diesel car - he runs it on vegetable oil. He buys it in 5 litre tubs from Asda. It works out around 80p/Litre - even cheaper when there's an offer on.

On the negative side, anyone behind him will be permanently convinced there's a chippy nearby and will find their mouths filling with water without realising why...
 
#14
On that point, will this mean that people will stop long commutes to work and people will seek employment closer to their home? there seems that there could be a whole raft of issues that could emerge once the price hits a point where it becomes prohibitive for some people to own and run a car, and how far away is that scenario.
Unfortunately no government looks beyond the next election, which is why their intended and unintended social engineering is such a disaster. Having encouraged the post-war generations to be mobile and to work in locations away from dormitory suburbs, successive governments have then milked transport as one of the cash cows that are needed to support the welfare state. Hence road travel is becoming unaffordable, and "public" transport is already unaffordable and/or non-existent. My neighbour works on a fairly modest job up in London, but has concluded that she might as well give it up and go onto welfare - the cost of getting to the job now takes a large chunk of her income and, when added to the other direct and indirect tax costs, leaves her with almost no disposable income.
 

jarrod248

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#15
Easy answer = it was a Labour tax grab. Spend a few years waiting for motorists to switch to (then) more economic diesel cars, then declare diesel a danger to the environment and impose a punative rate of tax.
Yup and the same will happen with LPG.
 
#16
A mate of mine has a T Reg diesel car - he runs it on vegetable oil. He buys it in 5 litre tubs from Asda. It works out around 80p/Litre - even cheaper when there's an offer on.

On the negative side, anyone behind him will be permanently convinced there's a chippy nearby and will find their mouths filling with water without realising why...
Not to mention the authority's having a financial field day with him when he is caught , and then crushing his car for their own personal amusement! :)
 

jarrod248

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Gallery Guru
#17
A mate of mine has a T Reg diesel car - he runs it on vegetable oil. He buys it in 5 litre tubs from Asda. It works out around 80p/Litre - even cheaper when there's an offer on.

On the negative side, anyone behind him will be permanently convinced there's a chippy nearby and will find their mouths filling with water without realising why...
Vegetable oil in supermarkets has rocketed in price, alsmost the same price as diesel now.
 
#18
Easy answer = it was a Labour tax grab. Spend a few years waiting for motorists to switch to (then) more economic diesel cars, then declare diesel a danger to the environment and impose a punative rate of tax.
Same old, same old. Some people can't get over it..... You might not have noticed it but guilty as Labour may be in pouring the misery onto motorists, the Tories were doing exactly the same when they were previously in power. These new rises are not being pushed through by Labour either are they, but rather by the good old Tories and their Lib Dem mates!

What's needed is a radical re-evalution of fuel taxation by all the political parties but, frankly, it's the one's who are in power who need to take the most notice. Let's not forget, everytime the tax on fuel is piled on, everything goes up including the cost of food etc. It's not just the motorists who are going to pay through the nose for this.

Sadly, crap politicians of all parties will always go for the easy option and this lot are just the same as anybody else on this issue, blinkered! I don't think it helps that when they are in government, government ministers don't pay for their fuel.
 
#19
Unfortunately no government looks beyond the next election, which is why their intended and unintended social engineering is such a disaster. Having encouraged the post-war generations to be mobile and to work in locations away from dormitory suburbs, successive governments have then milked transport as one of the cash cows that are needed to support the welfare state. Hence road travel is becoming unaffordable, and "public" transport is already unaffordable and/or non-existent. My neighbour works on a fairly modest job up in London, but has concluded that she might as well give it up and go onto welfare - the cost of getting to the job now takes a large chunk of her income and, when added to the other direct and indirect tax costs, leaves her with almost no disposable income.
This is it, I live 25 mile from my work, so 250 mile per week plus ferrying wife and daughter around tots up to about 400 mile per week. Now I have 2 options, move closer to my work or try and find work closer to home, the problem I have is that house prices near where I work are prohibitive and the type of work I do means there are very few jobs in the area around my home, so I have to cut costs either else where or find alternative forms of transport.
 

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