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Petition- sack those who allowed payment for stories

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We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to name and sack the person responsible for declaring that members of the armed services can sell their stories to the media.
The above petition has just been put on the No 10 website.

Although I agree with the sentiment, surely we should wait for the formal announcement next week?
 
#2
I don't agree with the petition.
 
#3
I disagree with this. Sacking Des Browne, yes, but the pawns? No.
 
#4
I don't agree with the petition nor it's perceived effectiveness. This whole petition portal is just another cog in the spin machine. Utterly worthless.
 
#5
I don't agree with the petition either.
 
#6
No, I don't agree. Bollocking - yes, but if you sack everyone involved you lose the lessons. Everybody fecks up, as long as you learn not to feck up again.

Des Brown has fecked up too many times and obvioulsy has not learned, thus bin him!
 
#7
This whole tale is going from an unavoidable crisis to a total clusterfcuk and PR drama. Sack Des yes, and Tony but not the service pers...
 
#9
FaceLikeAPingPongBall said:
No-one needs to be sacked, Des should resign and the First and Second Sea Lords can get their Flag Lts to dust-off the ward room Webley
Agreed. Petition should not be necessary nor noted. The system should simply identify any that are not up to the job and ask them to resign or remove them from post (non-blameworthy). This applies to civvies and military alike.
 
#10
Gun_Empty said:
FaceLikeAPingPongBall said:
No-one needs to be sacked, Des should resign and the First and Second Sea Lords can get their Flag Lts to dust-off the ward room Webley
Agreed. Petition should not be necessary nor noted. The system should simply identify any that are not up to the job and ask them to resign or remove them from post (non-blameworthy). This applies to civvies and military alike.
While I agree with you in principle, we both know that the system is not up to anything. If it were, this country would not be in the state it is.
 
#11
Perhaps we could club together and buy a Webley Service revolver for use in government, then no-one would ever need to be sacked and politicians could choose an honourable exit.
 
#12
762baynet said:
Perhaps we could club together and buy a Webley Service revolver for use in government, then no-one would ever need to be sacked and politicians could choose an honourable exit.
We would have to bid for that amount of ammo well in advance.
 
#13
I can't see why those service chiefs who allowed the fiasco to continue beyond the moment when it all started to come back under their control (on the plane back from Tehran) should be forgiven. They're paid to make highly competent decisions under pressure, and they singularly failed. Sack them.
 
#14
When you do something ALL the fricking time (like send these bloody petitions), it loses it's impact.

A daft idea, which will probably not even get noticed.
 
#15
I think the only thing we can be certain of is that Des and Tone will be doing everything they can to try to make it look as if this was a senior officer problem and nothing to do with them. After all Tone has a very nasty looking election coming up and he does not need any more bad news about NuLabor, and of course Des is hoping to get the keys to No 11 when Gordon becomes PM. Cue rolling of heads in the Admiralty irrespective of who is to blame

Peter
 
#16
maxi_77 said:
I think the only thing we can be certain of is that Des and Tone will be doing everything they can to try to make it look as if this was a senior officer problem and nothing to do with them. After all Tone has a very nasty looking election coming up and he does not need any more bad news about NuLabor, and of course Des is hoping to get the keys to No 11 when Gordon becomes PM. Cue rolling of heads in the Admiralty irrespective of who is to blame

Peter
Another Broon?!! Give me strength!! :x
 
#17
'Cue rolling of heads', probably the most likely action unfortunately. There are however 73 Admirals in the RN so there would be little impact on the service.
 
#18
Petition this mob to sack "the guilty man" and you just know that the scapegoat will not be either responsible, involved or even able to encourager les autres. Some sacrificial lamb will fall on his massive severance package and pension - result, no change.

Instead we need a full public enquiry, run by someone who isn't in Tony's "good mates gang". Once that has been concluded we will know who did know about the decision, who actively approved it, who staffed it, who passively approved it and who - if anyone - requires "career adjustment".

That to my mind would be a far better objective to petition for, rather than starting a lynch mob, as if a paedophile had moved in next door on a Portsmouth housing estate!
 
#19
If I'd done it, I wouldn't resign. I'd take my well deserved bollocking and I'd know better next time. You can't go throwing yourself on your sword over every little f*ck up. If you have that attitude you end up with people who are too timid to do anything at all because they're so scared of making a mistake.


I wish you could vote for or against those petitions, instead of just being able to sign.
With the current system: Petition A gets 1000 people look at it, 999 agree and sign, one person disagrees; petition B gets 10,000 people look at it, 2000 agree and sign, 8000 disagree. Petition B looks like it has more support but it doesn't, it's just had more exposure.
As others have pointed out, it probably doesn't matter. Those petitions are just to give people the impression that they're being listened to. No-one actually acts on them.
 
#20
Lynching or not, the guilty know who they are; far better for them to go voluntarily. Of course, those who don't cough up but are named at an enquiry should also go.
 
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