Pentathlon switches to laser guns for London 2012 Games

#2
If the Pentathlon has already merged the running and shooting disciplines in to one (run and shoot) doesn't that make the pentathlon a quadrathlon?

And isn't it dangerous to run and shoot?

Meanwhile. This is silly. Shooting is shooting, not lasers. What next bucking bronco to replace the horse riding? And don't tell them they have swords, that will be the next to go.
 
#3
Well fencing isn't really fencing without a sharp edge, and they were only going to use air pistols anyway so hardly really shooting. The original event was meant to replicate an ADC taking a message to a general, so maybe the whole concept needs updating. Ideas anybody?
 
#4
Well fencing isn't really fencing without a sharp edge, and they were only going to use air pistols anyway so hardly really shooting. The original event was meant to replicate an ADC taking a message to a general, so maybe the whole concept needs updating. Ideas anybody?
5 disciplines of the modern ADC. Phone call, e-mail, powerpoint presentation (according to the US Col recently sacked), internet surfing and making tea.
 
#5
I just love the naivety of it all...
"We can now hold competitions in parks and shopping malls."

"They [the laser guns] will be easier to carry around and to take on aeroplanes. It's the way of the future."
Yep, I can see it now. Assuming these "laser pistols" even vaguely resemble a handgun - no problems whatsoever with chaps pointing them in the corridors of Lakeside and Bluewater, or rolling up to check-in with a pair in the hand-luggage.
 
#7
Well fencing isn't really fencing without a sharp edge, and they were only going to use air pistols anyway so hardly really shooting. The original event was meant to replicate an ADC taking a message to a general, so maybe the whole concept needs updating. Ideas anybody?
There speaks a non-fencer,the original discipline was meant to replicate the skills of a military courier,and the concept works fine,it's just the people running it that need a reality check. Back in the 70's the World Modern Pentathalon Championships used to last 5 days,a day for each discipline,I think the Olympics allow a day,nowhere nearly long enough.

As for laser shooting,what a ******* joke.
 
#8
Yep, I can see it now. Assuming these "laser pistols" even vaguely resemble a handgun - no problems whatsoever with chaps pointing them in the corridors of Lakeside and Bluewater, or rolling up to check-in with a pair in the hand-luggage.
It's air pistols with a laser fitted in place of the barrel - the competitors wanted to have some physical feedback on shot release. Using the lasers means that spectators can be closer, range danger areas are now effectively nil. The kit is described here (link) although the website is still a bit ropey. Bet you they try for biathlon next...

It's easier to use (the competitors don't need to reload every shot, so they can shoot faster), and if they're traveling they get less (not zero) hassle from police and customs inspectors over "firearms".

There's always debate about how the Olympic movement deals with shooting sports; IMHO it's nothing to do with being against guns as such; it's just that the IOC are greedy, the TV Companies are greedy, and they'll sell their soul for a few million extra viewers watching the adverts. You'll get those numbers with beach volleyball and BMX racing, you don't get as many with target rifle or clay target.
 
#9
"They [the laser guns] will be easier to carry around and to take on aeroplanes. It's the way of the future."

Spotter mode ON "A long time ago....."

I honestly think switching to lasers is just bone, i mean air pistols was bad enough but lasers?!
 
#11
The plans for the triathlon are shaping up well though....

 
#13
Seems bone to me - a laser won't be affected by wind so will require less skill.
 
#14
I wonder what our best Olympian at this sport - Capt 'Jim' Fox would comment on variation. Anyone out there in a position to ask him?
 
#15
This makes a great deal of sense to me although an improperly used laser could blind someone so perhaps airsoft pistols would be better. In fencing they could easily make a shift to rubber swords without hurting the sport and I cannot see the harm in requiring the use of life preservers in the swimming portion. I am concerned about the riding portion. Horses might be injured during the event so this certainly should be considered a "cruel sport" and banned. Would bicycles work if we were to require training wheels.

Modern Pentathlon started doing down the moment they allowed air pistol for the shooting portion.
 
#16
Phased plasma rifle dickwad!
 

ancienturion

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#18
Nothing wrong with using lasers because the worst they can do is blind people and we can't really have competitors having to apply the four principles of marksmanship. After all, we don't want it to be made difficult otherwise they won't all get an A* and they do need to be able to shoot quickly so there will not be time enough to have to consider things like recoil and distance.

The shooting aspect of the Olympics really started going downhill when full bore was dropped and right now our present would be leaders are only too happy to put another nail in the coffin of law abiding target shooting citizens.
 

ugly

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#19
Another reason to boycott it (the games) and any organisations that ask for volunteers!
 
#20
Nothing wrong with using lasers because the worst they can do is blind people and we can't really have competitors having to apply the four principles of marksmanship.
Nope, it's a 4-millisecond pulse from the laser - apparently they're totally eye-safe, with the advantage that you can't sweep the light beam across the bull to get an artificially high score.

The shooting aspect of the Olympics really started going downhill when full bore was dropped
The Eastern Europeans are still narked that Running Target was dropped. Not to mention the IOC insisting that the competitions be separated into separate Mens' and Womens' events (they were combined until 1976), resulting in different technical rules and courses of fire for each gender, and...

Go the whole hog, complain it started going downhill once "Military Rifle" and "Military Pistol" stopped being Olympic events...
 

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