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PCSO's - Goodbye Plastic Plod

#1
Lanc's police are going to get rid of their 400 + PCSO's as a cost saving measure.
Good news and the start of putting things back in order. They were pointless, powerless and largely useless IMHO. I can only hope that the rest of the forces follow their lead.

BBC News - Lancashire Police could axe all 427 PCSOs

Lancashire Police could axe all 427 PCSOs

The chief constable said it was not a decision that had been taken lightly
Lancashire Police is considering axing all 427 police community support officers (PCSOs) from its force.
All PCSOs have been told their jobs could go by March 2011 amid increased uncertainty over future funding.
The force pays for their roles through a grant from central government or from local councils - which it said it could no longer rely on.
Unison said "lives would be devastated" by the proposed cuts and it "would not stand by and let this happen".
Ed Balls, the shadow home secretary, described the move as an "early, concerning sign" of the effect of the Spending Review on policing.

Lets not forget however, that the original concept was from the John Major government before the blind idiot started it rolling.
 
#2
Although its great that the police are finally getting rid of the happy shopper coppers are they getting replaced by any real police?

Why are Unison involved?
 

Command_doh

LE
Book Reviewer
#3
Why are Unison involved?
Because they have to represent them even if they are pointless, powerless and the public have zero confidence in them?

Unison said "lives would be devastated" by the proposed cuts
Indeed. Think about all those monthly subs going towards the Unison Chrimbo piss up. As for real Policing? Doubt there will be any more real coppers after these cuts.
 
#4
Actually, the gangly, speccy PCSO who walks the beat here is far more useful than the actual PCs who are never seen out of a car. He rooted the junkies out of the park, caught some repeat vandalisers of cars and even looks up your address and gives you a knock if you leave your lights on. The proper plod just hand out crime numbers for the insurance company.
 
#5
Because they have to represent them even if they are pointless, powerless and the public have zero confidence in them?



Indeed. Think about all those monthly subs going towards the Unison Chrimbo piss up. As for real Policing? Doubt there will be any more real coppers after these cuts.
I thought the old bill couldnt be in a union? Or does that not apply to Blunketts Buffoons?
 
#9
This comes as no surprise really. PCSO's take home as much as a probationary constable and forces can make them redundant. With the central and local government funding drying up this was pretty much inevitable.

One PCSO I was talking to over a year ago was saying how he had to take, initially, a pay cut to be a constable.
 
#10
Whatever it is they do won't get done by anyone else though. Unless they all decide to become Speshul Cuntstubbles instead.

Any chance that they could bin those Bunteresque, Ginsters scoffing plastic traffic plod off the M6 too?

I know they aren't real and have powers that stop at the ability to sweep up glass but it seems I'm always behind a twat that doesn't. As a consequence everyone has to slam the brakes on as he/she slows down as soon as they see a luminous 4 wheel drive driving at 69mph with the deliberately ambiguous words "Traffic Officer" written on the back.
 
#12
Surely that means they're effective as a speeding deterrent then?

Besides any fule knoe you can get away with 80 on a motorway!
And self perpetuating since they probably cause accidents by the reaction they provoke. Because of that they've always got some glass to sweep up

Fuel prices are a more effetive and safer speeding deterrent. No point chasing round like a loon if it's costing you a fortune.
 
#14
A bit like saying the clown who spun his car into the bushes on an infamous bend approaching camp should blame the fact it was raining! (Odd how everyone else managed to navigate it safely)
 
#15
Actually, the gangly, speccy PCSO who walks the beat here is far more useful than the actual PCs who are never seen out of a car. He rooted the junkies out of the park, caught some repeat vandalisers of cars and even looks up your address and gives you a knock if you leave your lights on. The proper plod just hand out crime numbers for the insurance company.
You mean the PCs who are going to deal with crime as opposed to pratting about avoiding the trouble areas like 90% of them do?

How 330 PCSOs that cost taxpayers £8m a year detected just 50 crimes | Mail Online

Yes I'm aware it's a Daily Mail article etc, just extract the figures from the article.
 
#16
Our local PCSO is actually pretty good I have to say. Well respected in the community and from what I can tell; in the local police force. He works closely with the High School so knows all the little scroat bags well - and tips us off to anything we need to know.
Obviously this is only one example and I'm sure there are plenty examples in the County of where the opposite is true.
 
T

Tremaine

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#17
Not so sure that the "hobby Bobbies" are pointless, powerless or useless really. Pigshyt_Freeman raises several fair points: to whit these PCSOs are generally approachable, they listen, and those I've met were fairly active in the community, including checking up and following up, on vulnerable citizens such as the third age group. They were also aware they weren't exactly popular nor taken seriously.
I remember scoffing at the idea of a people's police kind of force, no way could they replace proper coppers, I thought. Let's keep the OB on the streets like the old days, I said. But it aint the old days is it, Blighty looks entirely different today, and there's a wider demographic not forgetting higher risks and threats.
If we have a force of approachable, dedicated "officers" who are also deterrents; eyes and ears on the ground; and who are not far removed from Joe Public, it can't be a bad thing. Personally, I'd have gone to PCSOs sooner than I would to some of the local coppers.

There are a few other "officers" I'd rather get rid of, those whose only role is to raise revenue, "enforce" overzealous councils' mantra, harass motorists and sting folks who let their tax disks run on a bit.
 
#18
Whatever it is they do won't get done by anyone else though. Unless they all decide to become Speshul Cuntstubbles instead.

Any chance that they could bin those Bunteresque, Ginsters scoffing plastic traffic plod off the M6 too?

I know they aren't real and have powers that stop at the ability to sweep up glass but it seems I'm always behind a twat that doesn't. As a consequence everyone has to slam the brakes on as he/she slows down as soon as they see a luminous 4 wheel drive driving at 69mph with the deliberately ambiguous words "Traffic Officer" written on the back.
We're not plastic plod, we don't pertain to be police, the car has "Highways Agency" on all 4 sides If you cant tell the difference, you should have gone to Specsavers!!! We do traffic management and assist the over stretched traffic police by dealing with numb nuts who cant handle their car and stuff it in to the central reservation.
 

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