Payment of Cpls Mess bills IS voluntary

#1
With reference to the letter and response in Soldier Magazine (Jan 2014 edition) regarding the voluntary nature of contributions to Cpls' Messes, has anyone raised this with their chain of command? Usual threats of extra duties etc? Anyone putting in a Service Complaint yet?

The letter and response in Soldier Mag:
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#2
One of my blokes opted out of the screws mess, it wasn't a drama doing it, he just had to write to the Presiding Member.

Probably helped that he was a chippy, carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders, permanent victim, shitcunt.
 

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#3
Spaz appears to have beat me to it.

You'd have to be a right chippy **** to begrudge paying a few quid a year for something that actually makes your life better.

I bet he's the sort of cockstand that gets a calculator out at the end of a meal to work out exactly how much everyone owes.




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#4
Why is the RSM involved in the running of the Corporal's Mess, a mess should be run by (and for) it's members.


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#5
There normally always bitter passed-over HQ Sqn/Coy full-screws with hygiene problems, a personality deficiency and fat obnoxious spouses

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#6
Why is the RSM involved in the running of the Corporal's Mess, a mess should be run by (and for) it's members.


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It still needs a presiding member to ensure that it's run correctly, most units I've served with it's been a WO2. The PMC and committee will be Cpls /LCpls.
 

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#7
Agreed. Cpl's Mess fees have always been low - and if you can't get that amount out of your Missus, then perhaps the Army isn't for you.

The RSM is involved as the Cpls Mess is seen, quite rightly, as the training ground for the (slightly) more grown up world of the WOs and Sgts Mess. And having been Cpl himself, he knows what it's like. He won't get involved in any 'committee' work or the like, that's for sure!
 
#8
FFS, since when has Soldier Magazine had its own whinging ****, ******* Biff-chit "Aunty Deidres" Page?Get a life Girls, you joined the British Army, not the ******* Boy Scouts.
 
#9
For more reading:

Back in 2003

http://www.arrse.co.uk/infantry/3690-corporals-mess-should-you-aloud-opt-out-quo.html


And again in 2005

http://www.arrse.co.uk/seniors/21205-i-want-my-corporal-s-mess-back.html

For what it's worth I supported both the Cpls Mess (PMC at 4ADSR in '82/'83) and the WO and NCO's Mess with the Lifeguards (Living in member and duty pain in the arrse at mess meetings '86 - '89)

I enjoyed every aspect of mess life and have no doubt that it helped to bump my promotions.

'Wot Spaz and Ravers said above.
 

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#10
FFS, since when has Soldier Magazine had its own whinging ****, ******* Biff-chit "Aunty Deidres" Page?Get a life Girls, you joined the British Army, not the ******* Boy Scouts.
Not anymore. We ave rites innit mate.


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#11
The RSM is involved as the Cpls Mess is seen, quite rightly, as the training ground for the (slightly) more grown up world of the WOs and Sgts Mess.
...even "slightly" more grown up is debatable in my experience. But then it wouldn't be half as much fun if everyone behaved themselves would it?

My wife and I were watching The Hobbit movie the other night and she commented on the mess made by the dwarves during the dinner night in Rivendell. I pointed out that we had seen similar behaviour at various mess functions over the years.

Brought back some happy memories!

:)

Rodney2q
 
#12
At the risk of sticking my head above the parapet I always found it amusing how anyone who showed disinterest in the mess was immediately ostracised and accused of everything from treason to killing JFK.
 
#13
Well the option is always handing your tape(s) back in! Having said that, there are a few of the more specialist units that don't have a Cpls Club and have no experience of mess life until they've a Sgt. Then they struggle like hell to get to grips with mess life.
 
#14
Another example of I don't want to buy rank slides/stable belt/my own boots/any regimental/corps accoutriment/pay mess bills, opt out of Army life trade unionism - you'll be wanting to grow your hair and wear a hairnet soon........
 
#15
2 of my soldiers tried to opt out last year. They had both signed off and had weeks to push. RSM's answer was if you don't want to be in the mess then hand your tapes in. If your mess is shite then vote with your feet.
 
#16
I seem to remember that our lot didn't have a Mess, and spent a couple of years trying to get one.

When they did, most of the twats didn't bother going, as the Battery bars were in the accomodation block cellers.

Still had to pay the bills though.
 
#17
I remember the Cpls' Mess at the Olympic Stadium in Berlin. It finally took unanimous votes from three units to get the ****** closed down in 1981 or so. Complete waste of everyone's time and money, but no doubt lovely for the handful of bitter passed-over full screws who actually used it.
 
#18
Having said that, there are a few of the more specialist units that don't have a Cpls Club and have no experience of mess life until they've a Sgt. Then they struggle like hell to get to grips with mess life.
Do they really "struggle like hell"? It's a Mess which is simply an Army word for a club. It may have a few rules and idiosyncrasies but it's hardly the Church of Mormon, Scientology or the Moonies is it?
 
#20
Most clubs don't demand money and attendance with menace.
Sir's research effort has let Sir down and reduced the legitimacy of Sir's statement.

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