Paying a 3% increase in NHS salaries... viable?

Mbongwe

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However she is a Nurse first and foremost so went into wards that were short staffed to help out.

ALL THE MANAGEMENT STAYED AT HOME!
Snipped for brevity: presumably management stayed at home in accordance with their organisation's risk-averse guidance (i.e. stay at home unless you cannot work from home).

Your missus, in her important role as a nurse, went out and used her skills.

There's no "them and us" scandal in that scenario, just that she had frontline skills therefore she went onto the wards, the pen-pushers had no need to.
 
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jarrod248

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There was plenty redeployed to places they weren’t trained for. An example a community nurse volunteered (silly I know) and was put on an acute psychiatric ward. She had no training in mental health, no induction and no control and restraint training. Her first shift a chap ripped off a door and threw it at her. Now that would need considerable strength as be extremely heavy. She now has PTSD and is unable to work yet. I’ve lots of other examples. There’s a lot suffered at work in pandemic that weren’t in ICU. Yes so have other groups but this is about NHS staff.
 
I think the unions have timed this very wrong. They’ve let us down for years with poor pay rises and worse pensions for new starters and altered existing pensions. They won’t strike anyway, won’t allow us to. This I fear will lose a lot of public support.
It has, considering the Armed Forces, Police, etc have co to ies to work through the pandemic often supporting the NHS, it’s a political football that is routinely used by socialists to batter the government with.
 

jarrod248

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It has, considering the Armed Forces, Police, etc have co to ies to work through the pandemic often supporting the NHS, it’s a political football that is routinely used by socialists to batter the government with.
New RCN leader, there’s been lots of bullying and people disallowed to stand for RCN council. Staff of the union picking and choosing who they want perhaps. I suspect new brush sweeps clean and some dirty tricks going on. If they wanted me to strike I wouldn’t and neither would they allow it I think. Now they’ve raised £35m to give out for loss of pay, there’s I think 450,000 members...
 
New RCN leader, there’s been lots of bullying and people disallowed to stand for RCN council. Staff of the union picking and choosing who they want perhaps. I suspect new brush sweeps clean and some dirty tricks going on. If they wanted me to strike I wouldn’t and neither would they allow it I think. Now they’ve raised £35m to give out for loss of pay, there’s I think 450,000 members...
Mate I agreed totally with your statement, it’s hilarious how Nurses and Firefighters can strike whilst the police can’t.
 

jarrod248

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Mate I agreed totally with your statement, it’s hilarious how Nurses and Firefighters can strike whilst the police can’t.
It took years to get an agreement that we could strike, they just won’t allow it. One vote had a majority but they refused.
If I thought anything was worth striking over it was pension changes. I’m definitely not losing money, goodwill of my employer and patients for an unrealistic and unreasonable demand.
 

tpr0327

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I think it's important to take a moment to remember that many nurses, just like some people in other jobs, are utterly shit, lazy and incompetent.

They've had cracking increases whilst swathes of the private sector have stood still.

Maybe they can go do another TikTok dance whilst more patients die around them.

Anyone living on £40k+ has only themselves to blame of they can't afford the lifestyle they've chosen to adopt.
 
I think it's important to take a moment to remember that many nurses, just like some people in other jobs, are utterly shit, lazy and incompetent.

They've had cracking increases whilst swathes of the private sector have stood still.

Maybe they can go do another TikTok dance whilst more patients die around them.

Anyone living on £40k+ has only themselves to blame of they can't afford the lifestyle they've chosen to adopt.

Pay attention to the above post, Jarrod.
 
I heard someone from the RCN demanding 15%, yeah right like that's a viable claim.
 

jarrod248

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I think it's important to take a moment to remember that many nurses, just like some people in other jobs, are utterly shit, lazy and incompetent.

They've had cracking increases whilst swathes of the private sector have stood still.

Maybe they can go do another TikTok dance whilst more patients die around them.

Anyone living on £40k+ has only themselves to blame of they can't afford the lifestyle they've chosen to adopt.
That’s not correct, last decent pay rise I recall was under Mrs. Thatcher. Yes there’s some idle, lazy lumps, are everywhere.
 

Gout Man

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I can’t be arsee to join the discus.
 
Snipped for brevity: presumably management stayed at home in accordance with their organisation's risk-averse guidance (i.e. stay at home unless you cannot work from home).

Your missus, in her important role as a nurse, went out and used her skills.

There's no "them and us" scandal in that scenario, just that she had frontline skills therefore she went onto the wards, the pen-pushers had no need to.
Nope...
Management are "Divisional Nurses" but still they are Nurses.
They stayed at home managing from a distance in their pyjamas sat on their arses on the sofa sipping brews.
First and foremost as nurses why weren't they on the wards, all hands on deck scenario to show that everyone was in it together. Not wanting to blow smoke up the Mrs arse, but out of the hospital she was in, her and 2 other senior nurses were in, everyone else cried off either shielding or supposedly being symptomatic. FB caught quite a few out.
It has become a very much "Us and them" situation. Put us minions at risk while we sit on our fat arses, safe at home.. Knuts the lot of them.
 

Gout Man

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Can't work out if this is a new type of slang or if you're having a stroke
I was thinking about joining the discussion but forgot what I was typing half way through.
 
Nope...
Management are "Divisional Nurses" but still they are Nurses.
They stayed at home managing from a distance in their pyjamas sat on their arses on the sofa sipping brews.
First and foremost as nurses why weren't they on the wards, all hands on deck scenario to show that everyone was in it together. Not wanting to blow smoke up the Mrs arse, but out of the hospital she was in, her and 2 other senior nurses were in, everyone else cried off either shielding or supposedly being symptomatic. FB caught quite a few out.
It has become a very much "Us and them" situation. Put us minions at risk while we sit on our fat arses, safe at home.. Knuts the lot of them.
Bullshit.
 

jarrod248

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Nope...
Management are "Divisional Nurses" but still they are Nurses.
They stayed at home managing from a distance in their pyjamas sat on their arses on the sofa sipping brews.
First and foremost as nurses why weren't they on the wards, all hands on deck scenario to show that everyone was in it together. Not wanting to blow smoke up the Mrs arse, but out of the hospital she was in, her and 2 other senior nurses were in, everyone else cried off either shielding or supposedly being symptomatic. FB caught quite a few out.
It has become a very much "Us and them" situation. Put us minions at risk while we sit on our fat arses, safe at home.. Knuts the lot of them.
People who can work from home should, that’s the rules. No point getting teary eyed because others can work from home. RHIP.
 

The_Duke

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Your wife was just part of a three nurse “sniff test”. If they went down with Covid, there were other senior nurses on strength to step in. If everyone is in, you risk having to close the trust because everyone is sick.

Just consider her braver or more expendable - which ever you prefer.
 
Your wife was just part of a three nurse “sniff test”. If they went down with Covid, there were other senior nurses on strength to step in. If everyone is in, you risk having to close the trust because everyone is sick.

Just consider her braver or more expendable - which ever you prefer.
I wish.
With the death in service payout and her life insurance I would be considerably more wealthy..
Be new Fly Fishing kit for starters..
 
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