PAYD-How does it work when...

#1
...I spend time at a PAYD unit but my home unit is non PAYD. I presume I pay up at the PAYD place and claim back on return.
 
#2
I was in this situation last week, I had to sign a form which was kept behind the till. Bit of paperwork, had a meal, no payment into the till - food and Accm charge as normal.
 
#5
7911Bell, not in the instance described above.

You sign the chitty, you get food, you eat. F and A comes out at the end of the month as normal. Easy.

If anyone starts banging on about how SAYS is similar to being some stinking pluke riddled civvie, and how they live, I will scream.
 
#6
From AGWeb:

NEW JOINT SERVICE REGULATIONS FOR FOOD CHARGES FOR SERVICE PERSONNEL - 2007DIN02-075
1. The text below is an extract from DIN02-075 and it is of key importance to Service personnel on Detached Duty/Temporary Assignments who do not normally incur a Daily Food Charge. In the main, with effect from 1 July 2007 - The current entitlement to free meals at public expense for up to 30 days for Service personnel on Detached Duty/Temporary Assignments who do not normally incur a Daily Food Charge (Unaccompanied Food Charge (UFC) and Single Food Charge (SFC) at their permanent duty station will be removed. Some of the other changes are detailed below but full detail can be found in the DIN:

a. With effect from 1 July 2007 - The Entitled Casual Meal Charge (ECMC) for Service personnel at non-
PAYD sites will be reduced to the same amount as the Single Food Charge (SFC) and the PAYD Core
Menu Charge.

b. With effect from 1 July 2007 - The current entitlement to free meals at public expense for up to 30
days for Service personnel on Detached Duty/Temporary Assignments who do not normally incur a
Daily Food Charge (Unaccompanied Food Charge (UFC) and SFC) at their permanent duty station
will be removed. This will also apply from 1 July 2007 for those already on Detached Duty/Temporary
Assignments. Personnel will be required to pay for the meals they take in a PAYD unit. In a non-PAYD
unit the Daily Food Charge (SFC or UFC) will be levied direct from pay for those classed as ‘living in’
i.e. provided with Single Living Accommodation for the duration of Temporary Assignment; all other
personnel will pay the appropriate ECMC for any meals taken.

c. With effect from 1 July 2007 - The current entitlement to free meals at public expense for Duty Service
personnel who do not normally incur a Daily Food Charge (SFC or UFC) at their permanent duty station,
on day visits to Service establishments over 5-miles from their permanent duty station will be removed.
Personnel will be required to pay for the meals they take in a PAYD unit or pay the appropriate ECMC
in a non-PAYD unit.

2. Full details can be found in the DIN.
 
#7
good and a bad idea... in 2 RTR we have it... some times you wish for the old system... you always knew you could eat. Now you get your nutts ripped off if you cant pay for it from the duty officer...
 
#8
I am a Personnel Administrator(Clerk) in the RAF who deals with food and accommodation charges on a daily basis. Obviously your unit clerks are new to the JPA system but they should,when you are detached on a course or OOA , stop your food charges on the Arrivals Tracking page of JPA and re-start them again when you return to your parent unit. The RAF found, when we started using it a year ago though that some clerks forgot to arrive you back on station on your return and to start your food charges again so be careful that they dont try and back date your food and take is out as a lump sum in your monthly pay. It can be a pain in the arse.If there are any more questions on JPA especially the expenses part send a reply as I know expenses like the back of my hand. Had to resolve so many problems
 
#9
I know it's all been said before, however, charging food when you are away from your home on a course is a f'ing cheek, and frankly I'm not sure it's entirely legal. If my Wife's company sends her somewhere other than her normal place of work, then they are obliged to pay for her food and accommodation as she doesn't have the opportunity to eat at home. To say that you are eating the food, therefore you must pay does not entirely wash.
Having said that, it will take someone with bigger balls than me to take them to court....I like to think that I still have a career left at the moment.
 
#10
raftinkerbell said:
I am a Personnel Administrator(Clerk) in the RAF who deals with food and accommodation charges on a daily basis. Obviously your unit clerks are new to the JPA system but they should,when you are detached on a course or OOA , stop your food charges on the Arrivals Tracking page of JPA and re-start them again when you return to your parent unit. The RAF found, when we started using it a year ago though that some clerks forgot to arrive you back on station on your return and to start your food charges again so be careful that they dont try and back date your food and take is out as a lump sum in your monthly pay. It can be a pain in the arse.If there are any more questions on JPA especially the expenses part send a reply as I know expenses like the back of my hand. Had to resolve so many problems
Check pm please mate
 

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#12
-=2RTR=-Somnus said:
good and a bad idea... in 2 RTR we have it... some times you wish for the old system... you always knew you could eat. Now you get your nutts ripped off if you cant pay for it from the duty officer...
I thought you were AWOL in BC :?
 
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