Pay rise for MPs? Just say no...

#1
[h=1]No MP Salary Increase[/h]Responsible department: Office of the Leader of the House of Commons

At a time when the country is in deep financial crisis, the ordinary working people of this country are still losing their jobs, have been, still are suffering wage freezes while living costs are spiralling, and the government cutting or capping benefit payments, is it right for MP’s to get ANY pay rise, let alone a 32% increase they have been reported as wanting.

WHATEVER HAPPENED TO “WE’RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER”

SAY NO TO ANY PAYRISE FOR MP’S
No MP Salary Increase - e-petitions
 
#4
I'd give them a 100% pay rise & just bin their expenses' entitlements.
Absolutely

There's too much frothing at the mouth over MP's basic pay, when in real terms it's quite paltry in terms of the work and responsibilities (some not all) of them have. To be fair, I'd probably fiddle my expenses if I got just £65,738 for doing some of the shit they do
 

Bouillabaisse

LE
Book Reviewer
#5
I'd give them a 100% pay rise & just bin their expenses' entitlements.
Trouble is that in 10 years they'd forget that and start complaining about how difficult it is to run 2 houses, live away from home and so on and start asking for expenses. Personally I'd pay them more, with expenses, but chop the number.
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
Trouble is that in 10 years they'd forget that and start complaining about how difficult it is to run 2 houses, live away from home and so on and start asking for expenses. Personally I'd pay them more, with expenses, but chop the number.
hmm that might be an idea - cap the spending but allow the numbers to change. then start merging labour wards into one as they allways vote the same so no point having so many votes :)
 
#11
Absolutely

There's too much frothing at the mouth over MP's basic pay, when in real terms it's quite paltry in terms of the work and responsibilities (some not all) of them have. To be fair, I'd probably fiddle my expenses if I got just £65,738 for doing some of the shit they do
What responsibilities does a backbencher have?

Ministers who have responsibilities are paid (often significantly) more for having them. An MPs basic salary puts him / her just below the on-appointment rate for a Lieutenant Colonel. About right I'd say.

Expenses are a separate issue, but business expenses are a source of jealousy and misunderstanding everywhere. They should be reimbursed for all expenses incurred relating to their duty, but not rewarded by their expenses. Housing is the big one here.
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
Book Reviewer
#12
agreed they should have built an MPs patch years ago with normal houses in then ministerial residences where required. those with private incomes could opt out. their real house is after all supposed to be in the constituency and they can make money off that. I'd have hoped they would have reused some of the athletes village from last year to set up such a thing as a water taxi service to westminster would be cheap and easy to sort out.

issue a blanket family rail warrant/bus pass for general travel and a subsidised works canteen which they have allready..

in the 80s you would have 4 MPs from mixed parties house/flat sharing and they seemed happy enough.

you can issue a uniform as well - orange jumpsuit seems appropriate.
 
#14
I quite like the argument that other jobs pay more. Except of course most MPs are unemployable on their current T&C at their current pay scales. Consider these questions;

1) Would anyone have heard of the barrister Blair? Would he be a multi millionaire on the back of his legal work?

2) Would Brown still be in employment with his work attendance?

3) Would Cameron/Clegg still be on contract after lying about the tender they put in to get the job?

4) How many jobs are as hard to get sacked from for gross incompetence, stupidity, or laziness outside of the upper reaches of the public sector?

5) How many MPs would get anywhere NEAR the screw they're on at the HoC, or indeed still be employed in the private sector with their record of falsifying expenses, failing to turn up to work, drinking to excess whilst on duty, taking gifts and sweeteners from interested parties. How many firms employ people who routinely moonlight at other lucrative jobs, remember the furore over coppers, firemen and the like having second jobs?

My conclusion is that if they get a £200-£400 a week pay rise it means that an MP is a job for money like any other, nothing to do with serving your country or the rest of the claptrap they trot out when cornered. As such all the priveleges that they have garnered over the years should be scrapped other than H&S.

So give it to them and reduce the headcount to match up with the pro rata MP to population such as the US has.

I don't like the useless wazzocks in case you were wondering.
 
E

EScotia

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#15
I have no problem with MP's getting the same pay rises they force on the rest of the Public Sector. If they want more then they should accept the need for reform and cut the number of representatives in both Houses.
 
#16
The arguement is we need to pay more to get a better standard of MP.
ok can we sack the ones we have?
as they were hired under the old terms so obviously are not up to spec ( all parties) there is probably the makings of a half decent cabinet if we take the best from the house of commons.
But its pretty thin scrapings.
Half the issue is most of the problems facing goverment are not really ideological or if viewed through that prism will only make things worse socialism may not work but a belief in Ayn rand wont either :(.
We are all in this together 20% pay rises all round?
Thought not suck it up bitches.
 

Bouillabaisse

LE
Book Reviewer
#17
I do pay British income tax on my British income and German income tax on my German income, so I feel I have a right to my opinion in both states, now do one!
You have a right to your opinion in any state. I was just querying your involvement in British politics, since it doesn't really affect you much.
 
#19
2.8% this year and and £200 in the pack pocket thanks very much :)
I know which company you work for! I've voted yes for it, remind me to drop the ballot in the post at some point this week.
 
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