Passing basic training without passing the minimum fitness

#4
speckygeek said:
How can someone go through basic training and trade training, make it to a working unit and not once reach the minimum fitness standards.
Is this a joke, coz you missed out the punch line!!!!!!!!

Would you care to elaborate?
 
#5
Flasher said:
speckygeek said:
How can someone go through basic training and trade training, make it to a working unit and not once reach the minimum fitness standards.
Is this a joke, coz you missed out the punch line!!!!!!!!

Would you care to elaborate?
Rant begins!

I agree with Flasher there.... Are you seriously saying that this is happening?

Are we really desperate to recruit that many people, we are letting them pass off without even being able to pass a BPFA/CFT?

Fcuking shocking!! Anyone else agree?

Rant ends!

LS
 
#6
The technique which was commonly used when I was at the recruit training establishments was a really simple one....

The useless women that were no good to man nor beast would supply the instructor with bounteous amounts of shagging and gobbling in the field/drill shed or any other secluded (but not always) area of the camp.

The unfit men.... well....... I suppose that would depend on the instructor.??

Standing by for the flak
 
#8
medman82 said:
The useless women that were no good to man nor beast would supply the instructor with bounteous amounts of shagging and gobbling in the field/drill shed or any other secluded (but not always) area of the camp.
Fair one. Ha ha
 
#9
was informed yesterday by someone that has come from an ATR the have cut the BPFA because to many were failing it and they can be thrown out if the do not meet requirements once they reach a working unit

however in most cases the fact that an individual hasn't yet passed throughout their training (although full BPFA's are carried out at blandford there's no ssm's interview if you fail), is lost in the shuffle.
 
#12
smoojalooge said:
was informed yesterday by someone that has come from an ATR the have cut the BPFA because to many were failing it and they can be thrown out if the do not meet requirements once they reach a working unit
it's a good job the modern day enemy dont do front lines hey
 
#13
I left in 99 and it was happening way before I left. There was a massive downward trend in fitness, funningly enough it co-incided with the inclusion of women in the "mens" army.

This isn't a knock at women themselves, its not their fault that many saw a lower physical ability means you can bend the rules. There seemed to be an opinon that "aw bless she tried her best" approach and let the regt sort the mess out, this of course quickly permintated across to the men. I remember one sorry sole we kicked out on medical grounds becuase he was ridicously thin, so thin in fact when we went to NI they couldn't find a NIBA vest that would fit him tightly.

It wasn't just fitness that this sort of thing happened, i remember taking a girl for her APWT and she failed horrendsly, when I told her that she had to do it again she was shocked as she had NEVER passed one but the SAA instructors had always let her off, she was most pi55ed off when I didn't fall for her fluttering eye lashes and I made her do it 4 times. At the end she went off moaning to her boyfriend thinking he would put me straight, thing is he was an over the hill full screw storeman, who may have been a lot older than me, was junior due to time in rank and got a swift fecking off.

So whos to blame ? The recruit ? the lenient/weak instructor ? Or brass up high needing bodies ?
 
#14
All phase 2's must at least attempt the BCFT before they leave blandford 99% of em p*ss it, often putting any nco's on it to shame, occasionally there is the odd skinny little bleeder who dies at the 5 mile point, the infamous(why?) "CFT hill". those that do fail are often sent out to thier working units without retaking it.
 
#15
Maybe they should do the same as the TA and not let anyone onto their recruits course (they get RTU'd) if they can't pass their CFT?
 
#16
if they can't pass a cft then they can't be a trained soldier, so why then are they allowed to leave training and infect our corps with their lack of moral fibre???
 
#17
eee upt when I was a lad we had it 'ard in training thee know

Seriously though we were all told that you would of got back squadded if you failed your BFT, which was 10.30 in boots and denims in those days

I remember my first BFT in the regt afterwards a guy came back to the room and I asked what he got and he said "10.32"

"pity mate" I replied "imagine failing by 2 secs"

"what the feck are you on sprog" he responded

What I didn't know was the real time that you had to complete was 11.30, depot had decided to shave a minute off our times, laugh ? I near got the beers in




And you tell youngsters that today, and they won't believe you
 
#18
smmojalooge, i will take your word for it as to what happens when you fail a bft. as i doubt you could pass wind you fat uselesss cnut !!!!

how the f*ck can you comment on this when you must get out of breath going up the stairs carrying your flask ov chicken gravy !! sort your self out first before you scriticise others. that goes for your other posts on this farrse website aswell

AR
 
#19
mylittlepony said:
I've heard that they only have to attempt the BPFA and it is up to working units to train them to pass the BCFT.

Is this true?
Yes - due to the numbers game and the need to deploy ever more soldiers - they have IMHO made a risk assessement that has lead the more able to be deployed leaving behind those that can not to gain their fitness.
 

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