Passed ADSC...but (advice needed pls)

#1
My Son passed ADSC with flying colours.
Did the run in 10:28
did all the other fitness tests easily. Scored very high on the team events.
got 10/10 for the military test(grenades)

Because his chosen trade choices were Armoured Eng, and REME veh mech, he took the TST and scored 43/55. The interview went very well.

Now the but.....
We knew he was colour blind and had pointed it out to the AFCO, so we knew there was a chance that would stop him getting his job choices.

He scored zero on the ishahara book test, so he then took the lantern test, and didnt pass that.
So hes been put down as CP4. Which means he cant do either of his job choices, hes gutted.
He argues that his colour blindness isnt as bad as his cousin, who is a weapons tech on Subs in the Navy, or his grandad who was an MT driver in the RAF, but they have been assesed as CP3.

Does anyone know, if he can appeal, or go to a civvy optician for a test?

Hes been given a list of jobs he can do, and weve been through them on the internet, to find out about each one.

Jobs he can do:
RAC crewman
Royal Engineers ME C3S
Royal Engineers ME driver op
HCav crewman
Royal Arty Command Systems
and loads of different gunners on Arty systems
and also Infantry.

His aim is to do commando, or Paras at some stage.

Any advice on any of the above jobs would be welcome.

He will contact the AFCO today, and we will go in for a chat with them.

Hes still really motivated to join, and loved his time at Glencorse. Its just a real shame that something hes got no control over has stopped him getting the career he wanted.

thanks
 
#3
sorry i think i misread your post! id go to a civvie optician. if you search on here a few mistakes have been made and put right by doing this.
 
#4
A similar thing happened to my son - he wanted to be a sapper, but the medical showed he was similarly colour blind. We got a second opinion from a civvy optician, which showed he was SLIGHTLY colour blind.
The recruiting office wouldn't listen , so he ended up as a REME VM (although ironically the rules have just changed, so if he was applying now, he would not be a VM)

I would book a civvy test and go back to the recruiting office and suggest a rethink. I get the distinct impression from posts here that a lot of servicemen are channelled into posts just to fill them.

Good luck !!
 
#6
thanks for the replies.

He may go to a civvy optition.

We've just been in to the AFCO for a chat. We discovered that the job list he had been given yesterday at Glencorse was wrong, it wasnt for him. So there are new jobs to consider.

He is thinking very seriously about applying for the role of Observation Post Assistant in the RA. Sounds like a good job, with good prospects, and obvious progression to Commando or Paras.

He could also be a reccy mech in the REME.
 
#7
I failed my eyesight test for my job choice aswell, and had to pick a new job from a list.

Tell him to look into Radar Operator, thats what I've went down for its a really intresting job and is really good to have on your CV for when you leave the Army. They also do other Intelligence and Target Accusation(sp?) jobs within the Radar Operator job.
 
#8
TotalWar said:
He is thinking very seriously about applying for the role of Observation Post Assistant in the RA. Sounds like a good job, with good prospects, and obvious progression to Commando or Paras.
If he is considering this role but wants that specialism, speak to the Careers Office about 7 Para RHA or 29 Commando as these are the Artillery regiments that support the Parachute Regiement and the Royal Marines. I recently passed ADSC for 7 Para RHA as an OP and start in August and from many friends in the regiment say it is well worth it.

Hope it goes all well
 
#9
Josh71 said:
TotalWar said:
He is thinking very seriously about applying for the role of Observation Post Assistant in the RA. Sounds like a good job, with good prospects, and obvious progression to Commando or Paras.
If he is considering this role but wants that specialism, speak to the Careers Office about 7 Para RHA or 29 Commando as these are the Artillery regiments that support the Parachute Regiement and the Royal Marines. I recently passed ADSC for 7 Para RHA as an OP and start in August and from many friends in the regiment say it is well worth it.

Hope it goes all well
Josh you at Harrogate in august?
 
#12
i did exactly the same, went to ADSC (glencorse) passed everything, got CP4 so obviously couldnt do EOD which was my dream so now i have a list of jobs i dont want to do.....The one thing i would have liked explaining to me is the policy decisions behind certain CP requirement. Int Corp for example. The insurgents are in the red building, shit the green one, no the red one (maybe thats why?)
 
#13
Kingburn I felt the same way You did after I failed my eye sight for my chosen job, I got a list of jobs that never appeal to me, but you have to remember, you never knew alot about any of the jobs you put down before going into the ACIO, Have a look on the internet at all the jobs breifs, I would reccomend looking at Radar Op of you have it on your list. :lol:
 
#14
From a recruiters perspective i would have chosen RE C3S ;)

Not only for the fact that you do a 10 week Combat engineering course after Phase 1 training which puts you on a higher pay band, but also for the fact that the RE, the same as R Signals and many of the other technical cap badges have their own Parachute Squadron, Commando Squadron and other specialist units such as EOD ;)
 
#15
haha....i am currently a radar op in the T.A its quite an interesting job and i think i would enjoy it for a couple of months until i got bored. However, this could be the same for any job i suppose. RAVC dog trainer is on there, which sounds quite interesting, but i have heard they expect you to have history of dog work/volunteering or is the recruiter blowing smoke up my arrse?
 
#16
lol crap eye tests...

according to the army i'm deaf in my left ear!! me, i'm lazy hearing according to civvi's so i'd get 2nd and a better trained opinion....

your son fails his two choices purely on the importance of wires....

if he is good at maths and willing to learn get him to ask about RE surveyor or draughtsman, both very good jobs both in green or civvi and he can still go 23 Engr Para Regt or the new commando....

I'd say do engr's everytime (i know it's my corps) because when his at minley he can ask the pso to do any trade!! (bar sparky obv...)
the only colours he needs to know in the RE is that blue is drill!!

Plus if your son wants to do any trade the pso will let him try to do it if he whinges everyday to him or makes himself seem VERY keen!!

Good Luck!!
 
#17
fivetodo said:
From a recruiters perspective i would have chosen RE C3S ;)

Not only for the fact that you do a 10 week Combat engineering course after Phase 1 training which puts you on a higher pay band, but also for the fact that the RE, the same as R Signals and many of the other technical cap badges have their own Parachute Squadron, Commando Squadron and other specialist units such as EOD ;)
Unfortunately, as I said, they had given him the wrong job list at Glencorse, so when we got the correct list yesterday, there were no RE jobs available to him because of hios colour blindness CP4.
I thought the C3S had looked very good.

He has informed the AFCO that his choice is RA OPA. We chatted to a Sgt who does that job, at the AFCO yesterday. He may have to wait a couple of months to get in, as they dont recruit many people for this job. But its good pay, good promotion prospects, obvious progession to commando or Paras, and very exciting I should imagine.
 
#18
They let you be an RAC crewman with CP4?? Ive only got mild red/green colourvision problems and they told me i wouldnt be able to do that
 
#19
littlenickoutthere said:
They let you be an RAC crewman with CP4?? Ive only got mild red/green colourvision problems and they told me i wouldnt be able to do that
Yes it was on the list along with HCAV crewman. We asked, if by crewman it just meant gunner or comms in the tank, they said, no, it would be driver aswell.
Maybe the rules have changed since you went through.

He nearly went for RAC Crewman, but chose the OPA.
 
#20
i guess, i only went through in early 06 though, mind you im going by what they said at the careers office, cant remember what was on my eligibilty list after ADSC, guess ill find out next time
 

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